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Note: I'm particularly interested in feedback on making the conversation feel even more "natural" so that the audio is as similar as possible as if we were real

Note: I'm particularly interested in feedback on making the conversation feel even more "natural" so that the audio is as similar as possible as if we were really listening in on the watercooler chat.

throwanem 2y ago
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- sebastiennight 2y ago
  I'm sorry, please allow me clear any misunderstanding. I am not producing any derivative work of your comments, and this is not commercial use. Here is why: a - this is a static HTML page so the only way to generate audio from it is for YOU to provide YOUR 11Labs key to get an audio on YOUR 11Labs account that YOU can then download to YOUR computer, so technically YOU would be creating the derivative work, not me b - how is this promoting my business?? There is no link to it anywhere here c - did you follow me from the TikTok thread to here? what's going on? Also, are you also issuing cease and desist letters to every web app that is using the HN api? Because there's really nothing happening here warranting such a response.
  - throwanem 2y ago
    One moment, please, while I review in more detail.
    - alchemist1e9 2y ago
      The real question is why is AI making you get so angry over trivial issues?
      - handfuloflight 2y ago
        When you have nothing better to do, you do this.
        throwanem 2y ago
        It's nice to be on sabbatical, yes. I see the website mentioned in your profile, as the one in mine, is also broken. Perhaps we both have better ways to spend our time.
        handfuloflight 2y ago
        Mine is less broken than yours.
        throwanem 2y ago
        Is it? From here at least, multiplicity.studio does not presently resolve.
        handfuloflight 2y ago
        I will consult the manual and make the necessary adjustments.
  - throwanem 2y ago
    To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account edit: or a Github Pages account sharing a name with your corporate entity. I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon, which seems a trivial burden since personal hosting for Github Pages is also free. edit: No longer necessary in my view, though I still would recommend it; not everyone is as nice as me. To your second, see my first, above. Also, you opened your Show HN as: > Hi HN, here's something fun to play with. > It takes any HN thread and turns it into an audio conversation so you can listen to the thread while doing other things. > I've seen many previous attempts to turn HN threads into podcasts, but they all shared a common issue IMO: trying to reduce the very rich back-and-forth into a single-thread single-reader boring podcast. Instead, I wanted to hear the actual debate from the actual thread! I appreciate you believe yourself to have acted in good faith, and on further review I concede I made some hasty assumptions, based on the nature of your own representations, about the nature of this work, which led me to conclude more than appears to be warranted in fact. I know of no Tiktok thread, but infer from your mention of same I am not the only one who has reacted in a fashion which some could see fit to consider precipitous. Please consider the possibility that this is what a launch looks like in the moment when it is only going sideways, after the rocket has ceased going up but before it begins to succumb again to gravity's inexorable pull.
    - aerhardt 2y ago
      > conceded on further review > I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon Who are you, the district attorney around these parts?
      - throwanem 2y ago
        Have you never seen this kind of conversation before? edit: Oh, sorry, never mind, I see the 'Extension' now.
    - sebastiennight 2y ago
      > To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account. I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon, which seems a trivial burden since personal hosting for Github Pages is also free. It's not a "corporate GitHub account", it's a throwaway github account I created a while ago because some app required a GitHub login to give me access. I have zero other repos there, are my company uses GitLab. > I appreciate you believe yourself to have acted in good faith, and on further review I concede I made some hasty assumptions, based on the nature of your own representations, about the nature of this work, which led me to conclude more than appears to be warranted in fact. No worries, everyone can be mistaken from time to time, especially in a written medium. > I know of no Tiktok thread, but infer from your mention of same I am not the only one who has reacted in a fashion which some could see fit to consider precipitous. You replied to me just earlier today, on a thread called "TikTok is harming children at an industrial scale" where I made a cheeky comment about AI-generated YouTube content: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43718657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43718657 As an aside, I believe that AI should be used to enhance creation not replace it, which is why I built a video-editing agent (to help my customers who are experts or teachers who record themselves in real videos) and why we don't do avatar-style generative video. So I have some strong opinions about AI content (that are vastly different from other founders in the space) and enjoy debate about it. Threatening legal action might not be the most constructive tool for debate when you could find out that you're mostly in agreement with your counterpart's position... this is one of the things HN is good for.
  - isoprophlex 2y ago
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    - throwanem 2y ago
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- bustadjustme 2y ago
  > By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed. You may have issued such a license... Though without an explicit sublicense from Y Combinator, they may have issues with this application: > Except as expressly authorized by Y Combinator, you agree not to modify, copy, frame, scrape, rent, lease, loan, sell, distribute or create derivative works based on the Site or the Site Content, in whole or in part, except that the foregoing does not apply to your own User Content (as defined below) that you legally upload to the Site. https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/#tou https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/#tou
  - sebastiennight 2y ago
    This is simply calling the official YC API[0] from the end user's browser, so any user is basically doing the equivalent of clicking the Text-to-Speech accessibility button in their browser, really (albeit with better voices). [0]: https://github.com/HackerNews/API https://github.com/HackerNews/API
- deleted 2y ago
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- arm32 2y ago
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  - throwanem 2y ago
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    - senordevnyc 2y ago
      Please go be nasty and uncivil elsewhere.
      - throwanem 2y ago
        [flagged]
    - eddd-ddde 2y ago
      Because anonymous facts are less valuable than those from an identified individual?
      - throwanem 2y ago
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- Wowfunhappy 2y ago
  Oh for goodness sakes. This is why we can't have nice things. I don't know if you're legally in the right or not, but if you are, it's only in the sense that media companies are in the right when the DMCA a child's fan art drawing of one of their characters. Please stop.
  - throwanem 2y ago
    There is an extremely material difference between Disney DMCAing a good-faith fan artist and me, one unemployed person without so much as a sole-owner LLC to my name, demanding that my words not be turned to some other bastard's moneymaking purpose. I understand, as I have clarified elsewhere and for which I owe you no accounting of any kind, that is not happening in this case. I do not apologize, to you, for any particular of my reaction. Please stop.

throwanem 2y ago

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sebastiennight 2y ago
I'm sorry, please allow me clear any misunderstanding. I am not producing any derivative work of your comments, and this is not commercial use. Here is why: a - this is a static HTML page so the only way to generate audio from it is for YOU to provide YOUR 11Labs key to get an audio on YOUR 11Labs account that YOU can then download to YOUR computer, so technically YOU would be creating the derivative work, not me b - how is this promoting my business?? There is no link to it anywhere here c - did you follow me from the TikTok thread to here? what's going on? Also, are you also issuing cease and desist letters to every web app that is using the HN api? Because there's really nothing happening here warranting such a response.
- throwanem 2y ago
  One moment, please, while I review in more detail.
  - alchemist1e9 2y ago
    The real question is why is AI making you get so angry over trivial issues?
    - handfuloflight 2y ago
      When you have nothing better to do, you do this.
      - throwanem 2y ago
        It's nice to be on sabbatical, yes. I see the website mentioned in your profile, as the one in mine, is also broken. Perhaps we both have better ways to spend our time.
        handfuloflight 2y ago
        Mine is less broken than yours.
        throwanem 2y ago
        Is it? From here at least, multiplicity.studio does not presently resolve.
        handfuloflight 2y ago
        I will consult the manual and make the necessary adjustments.
- throwanem 2y ago
  To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account edit: or a Github Pages account sharing a name with your corporate entity. I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon, which seems a trivial burden since personal hosting for Github Pages is also free. edit: No longer necessary in my view, though I still would recommend it; not everyone is as nice as me. To your second, see my first, above. Also, you opened your Show HN as: > Hi HN, here's something fun to play with. > It takes any HN thread and turns it into an audio conversation so you can listen to the thread while doing other things. > I've seen many previous attempts to turn HN threads into podcasts, but they all shared a common issue IMO: trying to reduce the very rich back-and-forth into a single-thread single-reader boring podcast. Instead, I wanted to hear the actual debate from the actual thread! I appreciate you believe yourself to have acted in good faith, and on further review I concede I made some hasty assumptions, based on the nature of your own representations, about the nature of this work, which led me to conclude more than appears to be warranted in fact. I know of no Tiktok thread, but infer from your mention of same I am not the only one who has reacted in a fashion which some could see fit to consider precipitous. Please consider the possibility that this is what a launch looks like in the moment when it is only going sideways, after the rocket has ceased going up but before it begins to succumb again to gravity's inexorable pull.
  - aerhardt 2y ago
    > conceded on further review > I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon Who are you, the district attorney around these parts?
    - throwanem 2y ago
      Have you never seen this kind of conversation before? edit: Oh, sorry, never mind, I see the 'Extension' now.
  - sebastiennight 2y ago
    > To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account. I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon, which seems a trivial burden since personal hosting for Github Pages is also free. It's not a "corporate GitHub account", it's a throwaway github account I created a while ago because some app required a GitHub login to give me access. I have zero other repos there, are my company uses GitLab. > I appreciate you believe yourself to have acted in good faith, and on further review I concede I made some hasty assumptions, based on the nature of your own representations, about the nature of this work, which led me to conclude more than appears to be warranted in fact. No worries, everyone can be mistaken from time to time, especially in a written medium. > I know of no Tiktok thread, but infer from your mention of same I am not the only one who has reacted in a fashion which some could see fit to consider precipitous. You replied to me just earlier today, on a thread called "TikTok is harming children at an industrial scale" where I made a cheeky comment about AI-generated YouTube content: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43718657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43718657 As an aside, I believe that AI should be used to enhance creation not replace it, which is why I built a video-editing agent (to help my customers who are experts or teachers who record themselves in real videos) and why we don't do avatar-style generative video. So I have some strong opinions about AI content (that are vastly different from other founders in the space) and enjoy debate about it. Threatening legal action might not be the most constructive tool for debate when you could find out that you're mostly in agreement with your counterpart's position... this is one of the things HN is good for.
- isoprophlex 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - throwanem 2y ago
    [flagged]
bustadjustme 2y ago
> By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed. You may have issued such a license... Though without an explicit sublicense from Y Combinator, they may have issues with this application: > Except as expressly authorized by Y Combinator, you agree not to modify, copy, frame, scrape, rent, lease, loan, sell, distribute or create derivative works based on the Site or the Site Content, in whole or in part, except that the foregoing does not apply to your own User Content (as defined below) that you legally upload to the Site. https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/#tou https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/#tou
- sebastiennight 2y ago
  This is simply calling the official YC API[0] from the end user's browser, so any user is basically doing the equivalent of clicking the Text-to-Speech accessibility button in their browser, really (albeit with better voices). [0]: https://github.com/HackerNews/API https://github.com/HackerNews/API
deleted 2y ago
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arm32 2y ago
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- throwanem 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - senordevnyc 2y ago
    Please go be nasty and uncivil elsewhere.
    - throwanem 2y ago
      [flagged]
  - eddd-ddde 2y ago
    Because anonymous facts are less valuable than those from an identified individual?
    - throwanem 2y ago
      [flagged]
Wowfunhappy 2y ago
Oh for goodness sakes. This is why we can't have nice things. I don't know if you're legally in the right or not, but if you are, it's only in the sense that media companies are in the right when the DMCA a child's fan art drawing of one of their characters. Please stop.
- throwanem 2y ago
  There is an extremely material difference between Disney DMCAing a good-faith fan artist and me, one unemployed person without so much as a sole-owner LLC to my name, demanding that my words not be turned to some other bastard's moneymaking purpose. I understand, as I have clarified elsewhere and for which I owe you no accounting of any kind, that is not happening in this case. I do not apologize, to you, for any particular of my reaction. Please stop.