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Anyone remember YikYak? I was in university at the time, the explosive growth was wild. After the inevitable bullying, racism, threats, doxxing, that came with
by zonkerdonker 1y ago
Anyone remember YikYak? I was in university at the time, the explosive growth was wild. After the inevitable bullying, racism, threats, doxxing, that came with the anonymous platform, YikYak enabled geofencing to disable the app on middle and high school grounds.
I think every social media platform with an "age limit" should be required to do this as well. And open it up, so that anyone can create their own disabling geofence on their property. How great would it be to have a snapchat free home zone? Or FB, or tiktok
- dang 1y agoOne past thread: Thank You, Yakkers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14223199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14223199 - April 2017 (108 comments) Lots of comments: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=%22yikyak%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- rollcat 1y agoTechnological solutions to societal problems just don't work. Some $EVIL technology being fashioned to harm individuals isn't to blame - the companies behind that technology are. You can pile up your geofencing rules, the real solution lies somewhere between you deleting the app and your government introducing better regulation.
- kennywinker 1y agoGeofencing around schools is the kind of thing you might see if government attempted to regulate this
- ClumsyPilot 1y agoDon’t we geofence sale of alcohol and tobacco around schools?
- vkou 1y agoI think vending machines dispensing whiskey shooters would be a great addition to any classroom. People clearly want the product, and I would clearly stand to make a lot of money from it.
- kgwxd 1y agoYou want every (any?) app knowing your exact location at all times? That's not how we "geofence" the sale of physical goods.
- zonkerdonker 1y agoI imagine this could be set up on the operating system side. All the apps would receive is a go/no go signal, not fine coordinates
- anon84873628 1y agoOr maybe the schools just don't let kids bring phones in at all.
- ClumsyPilot 1y agoThat’s the same geofencing by another authority
- rollcat 1y agoThat would be a good start. I guess someone at Apple has already been brainstorming about it for a while. I still think geofencing is a poor bandaid to patch a problem we've created in the first place. Just like notification filtering rules, it's like liquor vendors referring you to addiction therapy.
- Swenrekcah 1y agoBy this logic technological “progress” can not cause societal problems? Which of course it can so why can’t a part of the solution be technological?
- vacuity 1y agoIt can be, but I think practically it can't be. Maybe that doesn't fit into a nice logical statement, but there you have it. Or: when you build yourself a constantly-accelerating, never-stopping racecar and get on it, it's hard to build a steering wheel or brake pedal for it. Or or: it's a lot easier to get into a deep hole than to get out of one.
- palmotea 1y ago> Technological solutions to societal problems just don't work. Ehhh, that's just a poorly thought out slogan whose "truth" comes from endless repetition. Societal problems can have technical origins or technical enablers. In which case a technical solution might work to make things better. So no, there's no technical solution to "people being mean to each other," but there is a technical solution to, say, "people being meaner to each other because they can cloak themselves with anonymization technology."
- rollcat 1y ago> Societal problems can have [...] technical enablers. That was my point. > [...] there is a technical solution to, say, "people being meaner to each other because they can cloak themselves with anonymization technology." I've never used (or even heard of) YikYak before, but what solution are you suggesting exactly? De-anonymisation? How would you achieve that? Suppose you have a magical^W technological de-anonymising wand, how would that not cut both ways? So YikYak enabled geofencing, to alleviate the problem they've caused in the first place? But let's suppose they didn't do that. How could I, as an average parent trying to protect my child, employ such a solution on my own? Could my tech-savvy neighbor help me somehow? Is there a single person outside of YikYak who can build a solution that any parent could use?
- btown 1y agoAh, a world where this is taken to an extreme might even bring back the mythical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place rapidly disappearing in the American suburb and city alike... because it becomes the only place in the community where property owners don't geofence to forbid social media use! https://theweek.com/culture-life/third-places-disappearing https://theweek.com/culture-life/third-places-disappearing But of course, social media companies will pour incredible amounts of money into political campaigns long before they let anything close to this happen.
- jmathai 1y agoWe block a number of online properties including Snapchat and YouTube using NextDNS. We have different profiles for different devices to allow, for example, YouTube on the television but not on kids tablets or phones.
- soperj 1y agothat's only good for the devices using your internet though no? not if they have data.
- pmarreck 1y agowhy would you give a kid data? (as in cell data, presumably) I guess, to be able to helicopter them from anywhere... Apple devices would still have parental controls in that case, though, I think? Cellphone companies should really step up, here.
- jmathai 1y agoI install a configuration profile on their devices which forces NextDNS regardless if they're on my wifi, LTE or their friend's wifi. https://apple.nextdns.io/ https://apple.nextdns.io/
- nancyminusone 1y agoAt my college, someone got kicked out for yikyacking "gonna shoot all black people a smile tomorrow" and everyone quickly realized exactly how anonymous it really was after the guy was found a few hours later. Thing is, there was a comma between "people" and "a smile" which made his poorly thought out joke read a lot differently. Dumb way to throw away your education.
- wilsonjholmes 1y agoCrazy Smart (; Edit for clarity: /s - I went to the same university which had the above slogan.
- lotsofpulp 1y agoI don’t understand. The “joke” would be if there was no comma. Putting a comma seems like they wanted to cause panic, and feign ignorance later.
- nancyminusone 1y agoYes, that's what he tried to argue (it was a joke bro) in the lawsuit that followed, to try to get back in. He lost. Personally, I think he just flubbed it. At the time, memes like "I'm gonna cut you <line break> up some vegetables" were popular. Can't expect a dumbass edgelord to have good grammar. Either way, it was a stupid thing to do and he paid for it.
- myko 1y agoI'm being obtuse but I don't see the comma thing making the "joke" come off differently, what am I missing?
- koolba 1y agoTo shoot a smile means to smile at someone. So the pun is that he is going to smile at every black person he sees.
- LeifCarrotson 1y ago
- kgwxd 1y agoGeo fencing requires constantly sharing location data.