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He wasn't a citizen, he was granted a work permit and it was directed that he should not be deported to El Salvador back in 2019. That arguably makes him a US r

He wasn't a citizen, he was granted a work permit and it was directed that he should not be deported to El Salvador back in 2019. That arguably makes him a US resident, legally able to reside and work here. One source - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-documents-government-case-mistakenly-deported-abrego-garcia-gang-rcna201665 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-documents-governmen...

spondylosaurus 1y ago
Indeed. Also I originally said "resident" and not "legal resident" because I think it's blatantly insane that anyone in the US, with legal recourse to be here or otherwise, is being captured and sent to a prison in a country they may or may not have ever been to, and in a country over which the US claims to have no authority to bring them back when ordered to do so. Kicking someone out of the US is one thing, but sending them to a shitbox supermax prison abroad is another entirely. That said, it's also true that many of these people are LEGAL residents, which makes matters that much worse.
- _mlbt 1y ago
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- m-watson 1y ago
  Absolutely, I was agreeing with you even though my wording was a bit strange.I wanted to try and engage in good faith forum responding to the other commenter but see that might not be productive. There are so many issues with this case and the many others that are popping up and I don't imagine they are going to get better.
  - _mlbt 1y ago
    What is needed is an expedited means of both providing due process and efficient deportation of gang members and other violent criminals that are in this country illegally. That’s the best way to honor the senseless tragedies of Laken Riley, Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nungaray, and several others, and to prevent them from happening in the future.
    - cess11 1y ago
      The US has been kidnapping and putting people in torture centres willy-nilly for decades. That this would somehow get better under an openly fascist or fascism-adjacent regime is not a sound expectation. One might suspect that a reason for the acceptance of takfiri thugs coming to power in Syria has to do with their disinterest in the rule of law and the low likelihood that they will do robust investigations of Sednaya and other prisons. https://www.icij.org/investigations/collateraldamage/post-911-renditions-extraordinary-violation-international-law/ https://www.icij.org/investigations/collateraldamage/post-91... https://www.thenation.com/article/world/torture-prisons-syria-war/ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/torture-prisons-syri...
  - spondylosaurus 1y ago
    Oh yeah, I figured you and I were in agreement! I meant that as an addition aimed at anyone reading this thread, not in a combative shot at you, so apologies if it came off as such :P
- fc417fc802 1y ago
  Where I get a bit confused is the part where the US supposedly has no ability to retrieve him yet he's also supposedly being held on our behalf. If it isn't on our behalf then why are they keeping him there? Did he commit a crime according to them?
_mlbt 1y ago
Yes deporting him to El Salvador without due process was a mistake. We’re in agreement there.
- klipt 1y ago
  Not only that, he was flown directly to their worst human rights violating prison. It's like deporting a war refugee straight into a fascist regime's concentration camp.

spondylosaurus 1y ago

Indeed. Also I originally said "resident" and not "legal resident" because I think it's blatantly insane that anyone in the US, with legal recourse to be here or otherwise, is being captured and sent to a prison in a country they may or may not have ever been to, and in a country over which the US claims to have no authority to bring them back when ordered to do so. Kicking someone out of the US is one thing, but sending them to a shitbox supermax prison abroad is another entirely. That said, it's also true that many of these people are LEGAL residents, which makes matters that much worse.

_mlbt 1y ago
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m-watson 1y ago
Absolutely, I was agreeing with you even though my wording was a bit strange.I wanted to try and engage in good faith forum responding to the other commenter but see that might not be productive. There are so many issues with this case and the many others that are popping up and I don't imagine they are going to get better.
- _mlbt 1y ago
  What is needed is an expedited means of both providing due process and efficient deportation of gang members and other violent criminals that are in this country illegally. That’s the best way to honor the senseless tragedies of Laken Riley, Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nungaray, and several others, and to prevent them from happening in the future.
  - cess11 1y ago
    The US has been kidnapping and putting people in torture centres willy-nilly for decades. That this would somehow get better under an openly fascist or fascism-adjacent regime is not a sound expectation. One might suspect that a reason for the acceptance of takfiri thugs coming to power in Syria has to do with their disinterest in the rule of law and the low likelihood that they will do robust investigations of Sednaya and other prisons. https://www.icij.org/investigations/collateraldamage/post-911-renditions-extraordinary-violation-international-law/ https://www.icij.org/investigations/collateraldamage/post-91... https://www.thenation.com/article/world/torture-prisons-syria-war/ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/torture-prisons-syri...
- spondylosaurus 1y ago
  Oh yeah, I figured you and I were in agreement! I meant that as an addition aimed at anyone reading this thread, not in a combative shot at you, so apologies if it came off as such :P
fc417fc802 1y ago
Where I get a bit confused is the part where the US supposedly has no ability to retrieve him yet he's also supposedly being held on our behalf. If it isn't on our behalf then why are they keeping him there? Did he commit a crime according to them?

_mlbt 1y ago

Yes deporting him to El Salvador without due process was a mistake. We’re in agreement there.

klipt 1y ago
Not only that, he was flown directly to their worst human rights violating prison. It's like deporting a war refugee straight into a fascist regime's concentration camp.