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What makes the Chinese government evil in a way that the US Government is not?
by skyyler 1y ago
What makes the Chinese government evil in a way that the US Government is not?
- zaphod420 1y agoWhy so much Whataboutism? Can't you just accept the fact that the CCP is Evil?
- skyyler 1y agoI'd like to know on what grounds you're declaring them evil, is all.
- Workaccount2 1y agoWhat makes the Chinese government good in a way that the Russian government is not? These comparisons are so stupid and just meant to derail conversations into the mud of an endless spire of unfaithful subjective comparisons.
- skyyler 1y ago>What makes the Chinese government good in a way that the Russian government is not? As far as I'm aware, China has not bombed any civilians while invading a foreign country recently. Maybe I'm wrong though?
- blagie 1y agoMy opinion is that TikTok is vengeance for the Opium Wars and the Century of Humiliation. Internally, China protects its kids: https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/08/09/1077567/china-children-screen-time-regulation/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/08/09/1077567/china-ch... I can't compare levels of evil, however. I don't think anyone, in good faith, can, since it depends on your value system.
- zaphod420 1y ago100% agree. They know exactly what they are doing. They are playing a long game of subtle cultural warfare.
- skyyler 1y agoSo, if I understand the argument, TikTok is an intentional, government-sponsored scheme to destroy the minds of non-chinese children? Is that accurate?
- blagie 1y agoThe world is more complex than that. There is plenty of evidence that drugs like opium were deliberately used to keep countries oppressed, but the dominant goal was to make money to pay for tea. There is plenty of evidence that alcohol was deliberately used, in some countries, to keep serfs oppressed and prevent them from organizing. It's close to an accurate statement, but it would need to have a few changes to phrasing to be so, such as: * "government-sponsored" -> "government-supported" or encouraged * "destroy the minds of non-chinese children" -> "help Chinese kids maintain a competitive advantage over American kids" As-is, it sounds more like a deliberate strawman.
- skyyler 1y agoOkay, so, "TikTok is an intentional, government-supported scheme to help Chinese kids maintain a competitive advantage over American kids" Is that accurate?
- blagie 1y agoYou'd still need to edit quite a few more words. For example, the world is much more opportunistic than that. I know you're looking for a precise statement you can beat up (much as my edits are taking away the ludicrous parts), but the world is also not fully observable. Opposing governments (and individuals, and armies, and ...) often take swipes at each other, but knowing the precise chain of events, intent, players, etc. leading to each swipe is usually not possible without extensive insider knowledge. However, it is possible to observe one side taking a swipe at another, without knowing every detail behind it.
- skyyler 1y agoI just want to understand why everyone is talking about China being evil. I've been asking (politely, even!) for reasoning and people seem to be hostile to it. I know the world is complicated, I'm not looking for an agreed definition so I can make fun of it or something, I really want to know why people hate China so much.