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I can see why you say so, and it is a concern, equally if you assume that courts are slow and work eventually, that's what it will look like on the happy trajec
by rich_sasha 2y ago
I can see why you say so, and it is a concern, equally if you assume that courts are slow and work eventually, that's what it will look like on the happy trajectory of law being enforced.
If you assume US is now irredeemably fucked forever, you might as well stop venting. But nothing actually is forever. Much, much worse Soviet rule in Europe lasted 45 years. I still hold out that populism in the US will be over much sooner.
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoI think it will take a lot more than the judiciary to depose Trump. If they can't meaningfully penalise him for the insurrection when he wasn't president, then they're even more powerless now that he is.
- rich_sasha 2y agoIf Trump, or anyone else, makes people really angry, I would imagine his "unimpeachability" will go. I agree, I wouldn't count on the judiciary to stop him in his tracks. Even then, if some of his associates go to prison, and stay there, everyone else might think twice next time they are given dubious instructions.
- Tadpole9181 2y agoPeople always say stuff like this, forgetting that the level of technology has skyrocketed. We cannot compare the USSR in the 20th century to the mass surveillance state and technology-dependant lives that exists today. And even in a significantly weaker, more vulnerable position, the USSR only really fell apart due to internal stresses. The people themselves were completely subjugated in the meantime, a cultural norm that has continued long after the fall of the union and led to the rise of (attempted) fascism again in those states. There is no real reason to believe that a state with this level of sophistication, if willing to use the US military on civilians, could ever be toppled by the people.