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Entertaining (though I've already read this one...). I have a more interesting game I play with bank security questions that's more useful, though -- and appli
by jtheory 14y ago
Entertaining (though I've already read this one...).
I have a more interesting game I play with bank security questions that's more useful, though -- and applies to the most common usage (where the bank provides the question to you).
Simply this -- for each question, imagine how easily you could guess the answer even knowing nothing about the account owner. I'm not talking about real analysis here, just roughly mapping out the answer space.
For example, "In what city/town did ___?" is a common question. Well, if it's a US bank, probably you're dealing with US cities, and there are fewer than 20K. (Already, whoa: a three character alphanumeric password has 10 times the possibilities). Then of course cities should be weighted by population, so since NYC is biggest... well, New York has 8.3 million of the USA's 311.6 million population, the answer to this question will be New York City about 2.6% of the time.
"What's the first name of your [specified grandparent]?" is another good one. How diverse are first names, generally, particularly a few generations back? Of course there's a long tail, but otherwise... not that diverse, and it's trivial to find stats on most common names in the early 1900s. I've never chosen this question even before I started thinking hard about security, because it was blazingly obviously a bad question -- the banks would ask for my maternal grandfather's name, and I was named after him.
Fun, no?
- suresk 14y agoHere is a worse one: > What is the make of your first car? The number of relatively common car makers is really low, and when you factor in the fact that most people don't get a really high-end car as their first car, 5 or 6 makers are going to cover a really high percentage (Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota, and Honda would cover most, I'd guess). If you factor in make AND model, we're still talking in the low hundreds of possibilities. Good security questions are really, really hard to come up with and should, IMHO, really only be used as an addition to a password - not as a way around one.
- troymc 14y agoFor the same reason, this one is awful: What is your favourite colour? (There are lots of colour names, but most people will stick to the most common ten or so.)
- antidoh 14y ago> What is the make of your first car? Winston Churchill.
- jtheory 14y agoIf you're clued in on security, you can certainly use the fields to enter unrelated answers. A random 20 characters would be better than Winston Churchill. But it probably goes without saying that if following the instructions (and putting in an actual answer...) makes you insecure, the model is broken.