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No, it is not small. I am really surprised that no one has been arrested yet who has been involved with this kipnapping of people. If Donald Trump is sanctionin

No, it is not small. I am really surprised that no one has been arrested yet who has been involved with this kipnapping of people. If Donald Trump is sanctioning this kipnapping, he is involved as well and should be arrested as well. That he has not been arrested yet, shows that he is above the law.

reed1234 1y ago
That is the next step AFTER contempt of court.
- garrettgarcia 1y ago
  Yes, first there will be two weeks of discovery and depositions, which the DOJ will try to appeal. Then there will be a contempt hearing for some bureaucrat, probably Neom or one of her subordinates. Then that will be appealed to the 4th circuit court of appeals. Then it will be appealed to the Supreme Court if the DOJ loses there.
  - exe34 1y ago
    and then...... nobody will enforce it, because the executive is the one doing the crime.
    - garrettgarcia 1y ago
      The court can deputize anyone they choose in order to make the arrest. It's just a question of whether someone in the executive branch shoots the deputies before they can.
      - exe34 1y ago
        Yeah that's where the well-armed militia comes in, they will go in against a nuclear power to capture the president...
        AnimalMuppet 1y ago
        Well, ultimately it comes down to a question for the US military: On orders from President Trump, are you willing to violate your oath to the Constitution, and to shoot US citizens? If the answer is "yes", then it's over. But if the answer is "no"...
        exe34 1y ago
        the generals who make the decisions and who could depose the great leader are already being replaced. Will the foot soldiers remember their oath to the constitution? given how the majority of them are proper Maga, I'm not convinced they will side with the people. the military and law enforcement are there first and foremost to serve the oligarchs, not the people, no matter what a piece of paper says.
        AnimalMuppet 1y ago
        There's a lot of layers in between. Lower-level generals (I mean those below the Joint Chiefs and heads of services), colonels, majors, lieutenants. All of them have an oath to the Constitution. They aren't all MAGA. Are they going to follow the Constitution, or the President?
        exe34 1y ago
        it'll be civil war part 2, of course.
trhway 1y ago
>That he has not been arrested yet, shows that he is above the law. That is your perfect summary of the "unitary executive" which in the past was called even shorter - the King. It has already been decided by Supreme Court - he can't be prosecuted for anything he does as President. And for his subordinates doing his bidding, even if it is illegal, he would write pardons (he may even write pre-pardons like Biden did for Fauci). Thus no constitutional crisis because both things - no prosecution and the pardons - are according to the Constitution. A commentary on the current Trump situation i heard from the Russian opposition: democracy requires constant maintenance by the people while with autocracy the people are freed from that burden.

reed1234 1y ago

That is the next step AFTER contempt of court.

garrettgarcia 1y ago
Yes, first there will be two weeks of discovery and depositions, which the DOJ will try to appeal. Then there will be a contempt hearing for some bureaucrat, probably Neom or one of her subordinates. Then that will be appealed to the 4th circuit court of appeals. Then it will be appealed to the Supreme Court if the DOJ loses there.
- exe34 1y ago
  and then...... nobody will enforce it, because the executive is the one doing the crime.
  - garrettgarcia 1y ago
    The court can deputize anyone they choose in order to make the arrest. It's just a question of whether someone in the executive branch shoots the deputies before they can.
    - exe34 1y ago
      Yeah that's where the well-armed militia comes in, they will go in against a nuclear power to capture the president...
      - AnimalMuppet 1y ago
        Well, ultimately it comes down to a question for the US military: On orders from President Trump, are you willing to violate your oath to the Constitution, and to shoot US citizens? If the answer is "yes", then it's over. But if the answer is "no"...
        exe34 1y ago
        the generals who make the decisions and who could depose the great leader are already being replaced. Will the foot soldiers remember their oath to the constitution? given how the majority of them are proper Maga, I'm not convinced they will side with the people. the military and law enforcement are there first and foremost to serve the oligarchs, not the people, no matter what a piece of paper says.
        AnimalMuppet 1y ago
        There's a lot of layers in between. Lower-level generals (I mean those below the Joint Chiefs and heads of services), colonels, majors, lieutenants. All of them have an oath to the Constitution. They aren't all MAGA. Are they going to follow the Constitution, or the President?
        exe34 1y ago
        it'll be civil war part 2, of course.

trhway 1y ago

>That he has not been arrested yet, shows that he is above the law. That is your perfect summary of the "unitary executive" which in the past was called even shorter - the King. It has already been decided by Supreme Court - he can't be prosecuted for anything he does as President. And for his subordinates doing his bidding, even if it is illegal, he would write pardons (he may even write pre-pardons like Biden did for Fauci). Thus no constitutional crisis because both things - no prosecution and the pardons - are according to the Constitution. A commentary on the current Trump situation i heard from the Russian opposition: democracy requires constant maintenance by the people while with autocracy the people are freed from that burden.