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> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us .us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters. .us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more spec

> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us .us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters. .us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more specifically, a ccTLD (cc = ‘Country Code’). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us And the English Wikipedia says that its registrar is a subsidiary of GoDaddy named “Registry Services, LLC”. The root DNS servers and registry are not run by GoDaddy or a subsidiary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server They are operated by important entities. Not companies that release sexy commercials featuring Danica Patrick. I keep getting confused between GoDaddy and Carl’s, Jr.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
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- bo0tzz 2y ago
  That's not what they said.
- bjt 2y ago
  .us is not a root name server. The root name servers are one more degree removed.
  - kowabungalow 2y ago
    Hence 'for .us'. The trouble with this form of pedantic is that the nicer way to interpret the misunderstanding is that the pedant is ignorant either of language or the structure of dns. "He runs the Internet routers for our company." -> "Your company doesn't run the Internet" -> wtf?
    - fluidcruft 2y ago
      It was a clarification that GoDaddy's ability to fuck everything up isn't quite as broad as suggested.
      - jsjohnst 2y ago
        It actually didn’t help at all. Read the part quoted again, OP specifically indicated .us, not “root zone”. The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”
        AStonesThrow 2y ago
        > The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us” “root DNS” has a very specific meaning, and you’ve misused it again. Root DNS means ‘.’ and only ‘.’ There is no other “root”. That’s why it’s called “root” to be unambiguous. In fact, in recent history, the root name servers use their own domain for convenient forward DNS resolution: ‘root-servers.net’ GoDaddy doesn’t run this either... Surprise, surprise! > Your company doesn't run the Internet Yeah well as a fragment, the statement makes sense, more or less, because there’s no “term of art” being abused there in your reductio ad absurdum. Indeed you can run your own private root DNS, if you don’t want to interact with the real Internet, but your private roots are different from your private/hidden/split-horizon TLD. Another thing GoDaddy isn’t running. Did you know that GoDaddy doesn’t run news.ycombinator.com? Not even a subsidiary! GoDaddy doesn’t run any “root DNS”, and they never have: period, full stop. [Pun intended]
        immibis 2y ago
        The whole point of a tree is that every node is the root of its subtree.
        jsjohnst 1y ago
        Exactly!
        fluidcruft 2y ago
        The original clarification was perfectly fine to and arguing about the correction is reply-all-unsubscribe line noise. There was confusion, it error corrected, move on.
bawolff 2y ago
I think its clear from context they mean the .us TLD, and not the root zone, since obviously it wouldn't make sense to talk about the root zone for .us. Its also very reasonable to use the more well-known name of the parent company to describe sonething done by its subsidary.

gjsman-1000 2y ago

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bo0tzz 2y ago
That's not what they said.
bjt 2y ago
.us is not a root name server. The root name servers are one more degree removed.
- kowabungalow 2y ago
  Hence 'for .us'. The trouble with this form of pedantic is that the nicer way to interpret the misunderstanding is that the pedant is ignorant either of language or the structure of dns. "He runs the Internet routers for our company." -> "Your company doesn't run the Internet" -> wtf?
  - fluidcruft 2y ago
    It was a clarification that GoDaddy's ability to fuck everything up isn't quite as broad as suggested.
    - jsjohnst 2y ago
      It actually didn’t help at all. Read the part quoted again, OP specifically indicated .us, not “root zone”. The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us”
      - AStonesThrow 2y ago
        > The registrar for .us (GoDaddy) is in fact the “root dns for .us” “root DNS” has a very specific meaning, and you’ve misused it again. Root DNS means ‘.’ and only ‘.’ There is no other “root”. That’s why it’s called “root” to be unambiguous. In fact, in recent history, the root name servers use their own domain for convenient forward DNS resolution: ‘root-servers.net’ GoDaddy doesn’t run this either... Surprise, surprise! > Your company doesn't run the Internet Yeah well as a fragment, the statement makes sense, more or less, because there’s no “term of art” being abused there in your reductio ad absurdum. Indeed you can run your own private root DNS, if you don’t want to interact with the real Internet, but your private roots are different from your private/hidden/split-horizon TLD. Another thing GoDaddy isn’t running. Did you know that GoDaddy doesn’t run news.ycombinator.com? Not even a subsidiary! GoDaddy doesn’t run any “root DNS”, and they never have: period, full stop. [Pun intended]
        immibis 2y ago
        The whole point of a tree is that every node is the root of its subtree.
        jsjohnst 1y ago
        Exactly!
      - fluidcruft 2y ago
        The original clarification was perfectly fine to and arguing about the correction is reply-all-unsubscribe line noise. There was confusion, it error corrected, move on.

bawolff 2y ago

I think its clear from context they mean the .us TLD, and not the root zone, since obviously it wouldn't make sense to talk about the root zone for .us. Its also very reasonable to use the more well-known name of the parent company to describe sonething done by its subsidary.