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I guess you weren't alive during the Reagan administration. (Iran-Contra? I don't recall.) Or the GWB administration...

briandear 14y ago
Big difference though, Obama promised the most transparent administration in history. Admittedly, it's a low bar, but Fast and Furious documents, press restrictions, including a prohibition on live tweeting anything Biden says. Obfuscation of the Solyndra scandal.. it goes on and on. The Fast and Furious scandal is the big one though. Allowing gun walking in order to then use the resultant violence to make the case for anti-gun legislation, resulting in the death of Brian Terry as well as hundreds of Mexicans. In Watergate all you had was a burglary, with this, people were killed. And yet, those documents are covered by Executive Privilege even though the President denied knowing anything about it? His lack of press conferences, restrictions on press at campaign events, colluding with the media to squash stories while leaking others. We can debate policy all day long, but there's really no way anyone can argue that Obama's administration is the most transparent in history. Even Obama himself is obscured. Every presidential candidate has released college transcripts -- except Obama. There are all sorts of questions about his past that remain unanswered, yet he claims to be transparent? We knew George Bush's elementary school grades, the cars he owned and drugs he did -- yet with Obama there are so many questions that he refuses to address both in his personal history and current White House administration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs
- chris_wot 14y ago
  The original claim of the poster was that the Obama Administration is the least transparent administration in history, not that Obama claims to have the most transparent administration in history.
  - Calamitous 14y ago
    Actually, if you read my original post, I stated that it was the least transparent _in living memory._ You are welcome to take issue with what I said, but I'll thank you to stop trying to make my assertion far more absolutist than it is.
    - chris_wot 14y ago
      Oops! Sorry about that.

Big difference though, Obama promised the most transparent administration in history. Admittedly, it's a low bar, but Fast and Furious documents, press restrictions, including a prohibition on live tweeting anything Biden says. Obfuscation of the Solyndra scandal.. it goes on and on. The Fast and Furious scandal is the big one though. Allowing gun walking in order to then use the resultant violence to make the case for anti-gun legislation, resulting in the death of Brian Terry as well as hundreds of Mexicans. In Watergate all you had was a burglary, with this, people were killed. And yet, those documents are covered by Executive Privilege even though the President denied knowing anything about it? His lack of press conferences, restrictions on press at campaign events, colluding with the media to squash stories while leaking others. We can debate policy all day long, but there's really no way anyone can argue that Obama's administration is the most transparent in history. Even Obama himself is obscured. Every presidential candidate has released college transcripts -- except Obama. There are all sorts of questions about his past that remain unanswered, yet he claims to be transparent? We knew George Bush's elementary school grades, the cars he owned and drugs he did -- yet with Obama there are so many questions that he refuses to address both in his personal history and current White House administration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs

chris_wot 14y ago
The original claim of the poster was that the Obama Administration is the least transparent administration in history, not that Obama claims to have the most transparent administration in history.
- Calamitous 14y ago
  Actually, if you read my original post, I stated that it was the least transparent _in living memory._ You are welcome to take issue with what I said, but I'll thank you to stop trying to make my assertion far more absolutist than it is.
  - chris_wot 14y ago
    Oops! Sorry about that.