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If it can write a nixos flake it's significantly smarter than the average programmer. Certainly smarter than me, one-shotting a flake is not something I'll ever

If it can write a nixos flake it's significantly smarter than the average programmer. Certainly smarter than me, one-shotting a flake is not something I'll ever be able to do — usually takes me about thirty shots and a few minutes to cool off from how mad I am at whoever designed this fucking idiotic language. That's awesome.

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ZeroTalent 2y ago
I was a major contributor of Flake. What in particular is so idiotic in your opinion?
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  FWIW, they said the language was bad, not specifically flakes. IMHO, nix is super easy if you already know Haskell (possibly others in that family). If you don't, it's extremely unintuitive.
- peterldowns 2y ago
  I use flakes a lot and I think both flakes and the Nix language are beyond comprehension. Try searching duckduckgo or google for “what is nix flakes” or “nix flake schema” and take an honest read at the results. Insanely complicated and confusing answers, multiple different seemingly-canonical sources of information. Then go look at some flakes for common projects; the almost necessary usage of things like flake-compat and flake-util, the many-valid-approaches to devshell and package definitions, the concepts of “apps” in addition to packages. All very complicated and crazy! Thank you for your service, I use your work with great anger (check my github I really do!)
  - ZeroTalent 2y ago
    I apologize. It was my Haskell life period.
    - peterldowns 2y ago
      I forgive you as I hope you forgive me. Flakes are certainly much better than Nix without them, and they’ve saved me much more time than they’ve cost me.
      - ZeroTalent 2y ago
        No worries I also have to say I haven't had me morning coffee when I was writing my comment and maybe reacted overly emotionally. To me prioritizing Flakes being succinct was a priority.
      - wg0 2y ago
        Man ... Classic HN. But yes unfortunately even if you across the whole functional paradigm, nix is surely complicated. And one single file whole system up is rarely true.
brailsafe 2y ago
I mean, a smart programmer still has to learn what NixOs and Flakes are, and based on your description and some cursory searching, a smart programmer would just go do literally anything else. Perfect thing to delegate to a machine that doesn't have to worry about motivation. Just jokes, idk anything about either. \s

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ZeroTalent 2y ago

I was a major contributor of Flake. What in particular is so idiotic in your opinion?

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
FWIW, they said the language was bad, not specifically flakes. IMHO, nix is super easy if you already know Haskell (possibly others in that family). If you don't, it's extremely unintuitive.
peterldowns 2y ago
I use flakes a lot and I think both flakes and the Nix language are beyond comprehension. Try searching duckduckgo or google for “what is nix flakes” or “nix flake schema” and take an honest read at the results. Insanely complicated and confusing answers, multiple different seemingly-canonical sources of information. Then go look at some flakes for common projects; the almost necessary usage of things like flake-compat and flake-util, the many-valid-approaches to devshell and package definitions, the concepts of “apps” in addition to packages. All very complicated and crazy! Thank you for your service, I use your work with great anger (check my github I really do!)
- ZeroTalent 2y ago
  I apologize. It was my Haskell life period.
  - peterldowns 2y ago
    I forgive you as I hope you forgive me. Flakes are certainly much better than Nix without them, and they’ve saved me much more time than they’ve cost me.
    - ZeroTalent 2y ago
      No worries I also have to say I haven't had me morning coffee when I was writing my comment and maybe reacted overly emotionally. To me prioritizing Flakes being succinct was a priority.
    - wg0 2y ago
      Man ... Classic HN. But yes unfortunately even if you across the whole functional paradigm, nix is surely complicated. And one single file whole system up is rarely true.

brailsafe 2y ago

I mean, a smart programmer still has to learn what NixOs and Flakes are, and based on your description and some cursory searching, a smart programmer would just go do literally anything else. Perfect thing to delegate to a machine that doesn't have to worry about motivation. Just jokes, idk anything about either. \s