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When it comes down to childhood abuse, I wonder how many people would opt for an AI parent if they were able to in the future. Because in my mind it's less abou

When it comes down to childhood abuse, I wonder how many people would opt for an AI parent if they were able to in the future. Because in my mind it's less about the world takeover of supercomplex intelligences, and more the obsolescence of a flesh-and-blood person you rolled the dice to be bonded with that failed to so much uphold the bare minimum. That would get into major questions of consent I imagine few people have ever considered yet... I can only imagine what that would say about the nature of dysfunctional childhood if society ever reached the point where the preference for personal liberation through AI arose.

MisterTea 1y ago
> flesh-and-blood person you rolled the dice to be bonded with Choosing a partner is not gambling.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
  That passage is about a parent.
  - MisterTea 1y ago
    I read that wrong. Though no child rolls the dice as that implies they had a choice of parents.
    - nh23423fefe 1y ago
      rolling dice is the opposite of making a choice. please dont quote rush to me
csa 1y ago
> When it comes down to childhood abuse, I wonder how many people would opt for an AI parent if they were able to in the future. As someone who has done a lot of research on child and adult development, I think AI as it exists now probably has the potential to do a better job than humans at many/most parenting tasks that it can do other than showing love (and that can go down some weird paths quickly with humans or AI). Certain life skills, executive functioning, conflict resolution, curiosity, creativity, empathy — these are all things that I think AI (with the right prompts) can do better than most human parents. Note that I’m referring to parents writ large rather than the almost certainly above-average quality of parents with which HNers have direct or indirect experience.
- throwanem 1y ago
  Some HNers. There was a thread about ACE scores a few months back, and the site search is quite good. It isn't just idle boosterism when people say this site attracts a far broader cross-section than its detractors like to assume, and I have often enough been one such detractor. All that aside, I don't think an AI can do better than any parent who bothers to genuinely try. Love makes up for a lot. Without it, what else matters?
throwanem 1y ago
Far better for everyone if my father had died before I was born rather than wait till last year, the shit he always was. But I think I would rather have had no father than an LLM pretending to the role, and I think there may have been real mercy for me in being born in an earlier and somewhat less accomplished age.

MisterTea 1y ago

> flesh-and-blood person you rolled the dice to be bonded with Choosing a partner is not gambling.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
That passage is about a parent.
- MisterTea 1y ago
  I read that wrong. Though no child rolls the dice as that implies they had a choice of parents.
  - nh23423fefe 1y ago
    rolling dice is the opposite of making a choice. please dont quote rush to me

csa 1y ago

> When it comes down to childhood abuse, I wonder how many people would opt for an AI parent if they were able to in the future. As someone who has done a lot of research on child and adult development, I think AI as it exists now probably has the potential to do a better job than humans at many/most parenting tasks that it can do other than showing love (and that can go down some weird paths quickly with humans or AI). Certain life skills, executive functioning, conflict resolution, curiosity, creativity, empathy — these are all things that I think AI (with the right prompts) can do better than most human parents. Note that I’m referring to parents writ large rather than the almost certainly above-average quality of parents with which HNers have direct or indirect experience.

throwanem 1y ago
Some HNers. There was a thread about ACE scores a few months back, and the site search is quite good. It isn't just idle boosterism when people say this site attracts a far broader cross-section than its detractors like to assume, and I have often enough been one such detractor. All that aside, I don't think an AI can do better than any parent who bothers to genuinely try. Love makes up for a lot. Without it, what else matters?

throwanem 1y ago

Far better for everyone if my father had died before I was born rather than wait till last year, the shit he always was. But I think I would rather have had no father than an LLM pretending to the role, and I think there may have been real mercy for me in being born in an earlier and somewhat less accomplished age.