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Or I can use a text editor like TM2 or ST2 and turn on vim bindings and get 80% of the way there (that's a generous 20% for all of the vim hotkeys that don't wo

Or I can use a text editor like TM2 or ST2 and turn on vim bindings and get 80% of the way there (that's a generous 20% for all of the vim hotkeys that don't work in the emulated modes).

bcrescimanno 14y ago
What I've found with "vim modes" is that I get the wrong 80%. It's really about how you approach development; in my world, it's very editing-centric. For others, it's tool-centric. If I can get 100% of the editing environment I want with 80% of the tools I want, I'm happier than I would be with your suggestion which would be reversed.
mhd 14y ago
Or you can use a few plugins to get 80% of the "missing" features of something like TM2/ST2. Especially if terminal/cross-platform support is an issue. Whatever floats your boat, any half-way decent expandable editor should be able to emulate other editors features with some effort. Corollary: Whatever you do, there still will be some rabid CygnusEd fan complaining.
Legion 14y ago
80%? Every attempt I make to use a Vim emulation mode doesn't get 20 seconds without failing to replicate Vim behavior on even fairly basic things.
- weaksauce 14y ago
  What features do they fail on typically? Have you tried Xvim? It's far from perfect(still alpha) but it's got a lot going for it. It turns out Vim has a lot of features and it takes a while to get to a polished state.
- Derbasti 14y ago
  Then check out Evil for Emacs and ViEmu for Visual Studio. ViEmu even supports something like nnoremap in its .viemurc. Case in point: My first introduction to Vim was through ViEmu.
  - qu4z-2 14y ago
    Alternatively VsVim for Visual Studio. I prefer it, although I couldn't give any reasons why. It still fails the "Does it break flow by not implementing some feature or other?" test fairly frequently though. First thing that comes to mind is that while it has text objects, it seems to be lacking "tag" though (vit, not vi<). Which is a shame, as it's quite useful for web dev.

Or I can use a text editor like TM2 or ST2 and turn on vim bindings and get 80% of the way there (that's a generous 20% for all of the vim hotkeys that don't work in the emulated modes).

bcrescimanno 14y ago

What I've found with "vim modes" is that I get the wrong 80%. It's really about how you approach development; in my world, it's very editing-centric. For others, it's tool-centric. If I can get 100% of the editing environment I want with 80% of the tools I want, I'm happier than I would be with your suggestion which would be reversed.

mhd 14y ago

Or you can use a few plugins to get 80% of the "missing" features of something like TM2/ST2. Especially if terminal/cross-platform support is an issue. Whatever floats your boat, any half-way decent expandable editor should be able to emulate other editors features with some effort. Corollary: Whatever you do, there still will be some rabid CygnusEd fan complaining.

Legion 14y ago

80%? Every attempt I make to use a Vim emulation mode doesn't get 20 seconds without failing to replicate Vim behavior on even fairly basic things.

weaksauce 14y ago
What features do they fail on typically? Have you tried Xvim? It's far from perfect(still alpha) but it's got a lot going for it. It turns out Vim has a lot of features and it takes a while to get to a polished state.
Derbasti 14y ago
Then check out Evil for Emacs and ViEmu for Visual Studio. ViEmu even supports something like nnoremap in its .viemurc. Case in point: My first introduction to Vim was through ViEmu.
- qu4z-2 14y ago
  Alternatively VsVim for Visual Studio. I prefer it, although I couldn't give any reasons why. It still fails the "Does it break flow by not implementing some feature or other?" test fairly frequently though. First thing that comes to mind is that while it has text objects, it seems to be lacking "tag" though (vit, not vi<). Which is a shame, as it's quite useful for web dev.