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More about the Polonaise[0]. [0] https://culture.pl/en/work/dancing-through-history-the-polonaise-its-enduring-legacy https://culture.pl/en/work/dancing-throug

More about the Polonaise[0]. [0] https://culture.pl/en/work/dancing-through-history-the-polonaise-its-enduring-legacy https://culture.pl/en/work/dancing-through-history-the-polon...

0rzech 1y ago
It's disappointing that neither Monika Ścisłowska with Rafał Niedzielski of apnews.com, nor Aleksandra Bogucka of culture.pl - all of them Polish people - bothered at least once to mention how this national dance is called in its mother tongue. So, here it is: polonez.
- viccis 1y ago
  Oh wow, like 3 letters difference, pronounced identically in English, glad you cleared that up.
  - 0rzech 1y ago
    That's not the point, but whatever.
- Majestic121 1y ago
  `polonez` is a deformation from the actual name `polonaise` (cf https://www.reddit.com/r/BoneAppleTea/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BoneAppleTea/), it makes sense that they don't mention it since it's obviously not Polish of origin (why would Polish people call it Polish dance ?) They do mention the original Polish dance chodzony, extensively
  - where-group-by 1y ago
    Currently it's mostly referred to as "polonez", with that exact spelling. It's one of those loan words that got it's spelling changed in Polish.
  - 0rzech 1y ago
    And yet, this is exactly how it's been called in Poland for years. [1] Unsurprisingly, you can find "polonez" on gov.pl too. [2] "a deformation from the actual name" in this context is called a loanword. Regardless of etymology, an article talking about a national treasure being put on UNESCO list absolutely should mention that, IMO. Can be next to "chodzony". No problem with that. Even better, TBH. AP didn't write even "chodzony", btw. Only "the «walking dance»". [1] https://sjp.pwn.pl/sjp/polonez;2572042.html [2] https://www.gov.pl/web/kultura/wpis-poloneza--tradycyjnego-tanca-polskiego-na-liste-reprezentatywna-niematerialnego-dziedzictwa-kulturowego-ludzkosci
tumdum_ 1y ago
Also https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSO_Polonez https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSO_Polonez ;)

More about the Polonaise[0]. [0] https://culture.pl/en/work/dancing-through-history-the-polonaise-its-enduring-legacy https://culture.pl/en/work/dancing-through-history-the-polon...

0rzech 1y ago

It's disappointing that neither Monika Ścisłowska with Rafał Niedzielski of apnews.com, nor Aleksandra Bogucka of culture.pl - all of them Polish people - bothered at least once to mention how this national dance is called in its mother tongue. So, here it is: polonez.

viccis 1y ago
Oh wow, like 3 letters difference, pronounced identically in English, glad you cleared that up.
- 0rzech 1y ago
  That's not the point, but whatever.
Majestic121 1y ago
`polonez` is a deformation from the actual name `polonaise` (cf https://www.reddit.com/r/BoneAppleTea/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BoneAppleTea/), it makes sense that they don't mention it since it's obviously not Polish of origin (why would Polish people call it Polish dance ?) They do mention the original Polish dance chodzony, extensively
- where-group-by 1y ago
  Currently it's mostly referred to as "polonez", with that exact spelling. It's one of those loan words that got it's spelling changed in Polish.
- 0rzech 1y ago
  And yet, this is exactly how it's been called in Poland for years. [1] Unsurprisingly, you can find "polonez" on gov.pl too. [2] "a deformation from the actual name" in this context is called a loanword. Regardless of etymology, an article talking about a national treasure being put on UNESCO list absolutely should mention that, IMO. Can be next to "chodzony". No problem with that. Even better, TBH. AP didn't write even "chodzony", btw. Only "the «walking dance»". [1] https://sjp.pwn.pl/sjp/polonez;2572042.html [2] https://www.gov.pl/web/kultura/wpis-poloneza--tradycyjnego-tanca-polskiego-na-liste-reprezentatywna-niematerialnego-dziedzictwa-kulturowego-ludzkosci

tumdum_ 1y ago

Also https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSO_Polonez https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSO_Polonez ;)