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Agreed, this word needs to be claimed and defended. We need a sane politics that can win and for that we need to start with a rallying cry, in a nation where th

Agreed, this word needs to be claimed and defended. We need a sane politics that can win and for that we need to start with a rallying cry, in a nation where the median is poor, materialistic, and amoral. Obviously, rallying around “diversity” or “girlboss” or “degrowth” is not a durable winner. “MAGA” unfortunately might be a durable winner. “Abundance” has a fighting chance, and it’s even morally defensible.

abalone 1y ago
> We need a sane politics that can win and for that we need to start with a rallying cry The answer is staring us right in the face. It’s a catchy slogan and pulling tens of thousands even in deep red MAGA country. https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2025/04/13/fighting-oligarchy-bernie-sanders/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2025/04/13/fighting-oli... https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-04-12/bernie-sanders-fighting-oligarchy-tour-los-angeles-aoc-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joan-baez-neil-young-maggie-rogers https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-04-12/bernie-san...
- m_fayer 1y ago
  "Extraordinary danger"? "Fighting the oligarchy"? Those can certainly pull tens of thousands of people to the street. But I'm not so sure it's enough to win. See what I said above - materialistic, amoral. I'm afraid that the rallying cry we need must contain an answer to "what's in it for me?" to be a winner.
  - bigbadfeline 1y ago
    "Fighting the oligarchy" is the new slogan. "Fighting the deep state" and "Draining the swamp" are the old ones. I see no reason to believe that any of these is more truthful than the others, it's just tail chasing from both ends.
exceptione 1y ago
Everything that does not confront the rigid beliefs and behaviors that leads to autocracy is distracting the dying patient. Neoliberalism => Corporatism => Autocracy People are not thinking about improving the world, they are looking to "own" the enemy, Sado Populism.

abalone 1y ago

> We need a sane politics that can win and for that we need to start with a rallying cry The answer is staring us right in the face. It’s a catchy slogan and pulling tens of thousands even in deep red MAGA country. https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2025/04/13/fighting-oligarchy-bernie-sanders/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2025/04/13/fighting-oli... https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-04-12/bernie-sanders-fighting-oligarchy-tour-los-angeles-aoc-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joan-baez-neil-young-maggie-rogers https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-04-12/bernie-san...

m_fayer 1y ago
"Extraordinary danger"? "Fighting the oligarchy"? Those can certainly pull tens of thousands of people to the street. But I'm not so sure it's enough to win. See what I said above - materialistic, amoral. I'm afraid that the rallying cry we need must contain an answer to "what's in it for me?" to be a winner.
- bigbadfeline 1y ago
  "Fighting the oligarchy" is the new slogan. "Fighting the deep state" and "Draining the swamp" are the old ones. I see no reason to believe that any of these is more truthful than the others, it's just tail chasing from both ends.

exceptione 1y ago

Everything that does not confront the rigid beliefs and behaviors that leads to autocracy is distracting the dying patient. Neoliberalism => Corporatism => Autocracy People are not thinking about improving the world, they are looking to "own" the enemy, Sado Populism.