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So they bought and shut down Skiff to make this piece of garbage that only works with gmail?

by Saris 2y ago

isaachinman 2y ago
Have a look at Marco. It's IMAP primitive and will work with any email provider. I'm a co-founder and we're bootstrapped. https://marcoapp.io https://marcoapp.io
- atonse 2y ago
  Very interesting... I use Mail.app all the time because I like a unified inbox. But is this one of those "let's build everything in rust since it's super-fast"? (I HOPE so actually). Or is it just another electron app? For sure there are nice examples of snappy electron apps (like Linear) but which one is it? I feel there might be a market for a fully native MODERN and OS-native looking mail client (alternative to at least Mac Mail, but actually fast with search that is actually useful). Is that what you're building?
  - isaachinman 2y ago
    Good questions! > But is this one of those "let's build everything in rust since it's super-fast"? (I HOPE so actually). No. It's not written in Rust. Language choice would have literally nothing to do with making IMAP/the email experience any faster. I don't want to make any firm claims as we've yet to do serious benchmarking, but what we've built is _much_ faster than Mail.app, let alone Gmail. The tech we've chosen, and the actual app itself, essentially _feels_ like Linear for email. > I feel there might be a market for a fully native MODERN and OS-native looking mail client (alternative to at least Mac Mail, but actually fast with search that is actually useful). Yes, this is what we're building, but a bit beyond that. It's completely cross-platform: web, Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Any N number of clients a user might have running will seamlessly and instantly sync, given network availability. That said, each client is also fully offline-first. There _is_ a market for this. It's been a nasty problem to solve, but we have a massive waitlist. Superhuman has achieved great success (although being an over-valued VC org) but only support Google + Microsoft _via_ API access. Notion launching their product is further validation that there's a lot of space in this market. But Marco is quite different. We're building a cross-platform IMAP-primitive email client that gets the basics right. It'll work with any email provider that supports IMAP (basically all). We're not pushing or even _building_ any "AI" stuff yet. I wrote a blog post detailed our motivations here: https://marcoapp.io/blog/marco-an-introduction https://marcoapp.io/blog/marco-an-introduction Let me know if you have any follow-up questions.

So they bought and shut down Skiff to make this piece of garbage that only works with gmail?

by Saris 2y ago

So they bought and shut down Skiff to make this piece of garbage that only works with gmail?

Have a look at Marco. It's IMAP primitive and will work with any email provider. I'm a co-founder and we're bootstrapped. https://marcoapp.io https://marcoapp.io

atonse 2y ago
Very interesting... I use Mail.app all the time because I like a unified inbox. But is this one of those "let's build everything in rust since it's super-fast"? (I HOPE so actually). Or is it just another electron app? For sure there are nice examples of snappy electron apps (like Linear) but which one is it? I feel there might be a market for a fully native MODERN and OS-native looking mail client (alternative to at least Mac Mail, but actually fast with search that is actually useful). Is that what you're building?
- isaachinman 2y ago
  Good questions! > But is this one of those "let's build everything in rust since it's super-fast"? (I HOPE so actually). No. It's not written in Rust. Language choice would have literally nothing to do with making IMAP/the email experience any faster. I don't want to make any firm claims as we've yet to do serious benchmarking, but what we've built is _much_ faster than Mail.app, let alone Gmail. The tech we've chosen, and the actual app itself, essentially _feels_ like Linear for email. > I feel there might be a market for a fully native MODERN and OS-native looking mail client (alternative to at least Mac Mail, but actually fast with search that is actually useful). Yes, this is what we're building, but a bit beyond that. It's completely cross-platform: web, Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Any N number of clients a user might have running will seamlessly and instantly sync, given network availability. That said, each client is also fully offline-first. There _is_ a market for this. It's been a nasty problem to solve, but we have a massive waitlist. Superhuman has achieved great success (although being an over-valued VC org) but only support Google + Microsoft _via_ API access. Notion launching their product is further validation that there's a lot of space in this market. But Marco is quite different. We're building a cross-platform IMAP-primitive email client that gets the basics right. It'll work with any email provider that supports IMAP (basically all). We're not pushing or even _building_ any "AI" stuff yet. I wrote a blog post detailed our motivations here: https://marcoapp.io/blog/marco-an-introduction https://marcoapp.io/blog/marco-an-introduction Let me know if you have any follow-up questions.