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> Remember that you'll get comparable levels of radiation even if you commute through the grand central station every day. Gemini says this: > A single typica
by uh_uh 1y ago
> Remember that you'll get comparable levels of radiation even if you commute through the grand central station every day.
Gemini says this:
> A single typical CT scan delivers a dose that is roughly 1,000 to over 5,000 times higher than the dose you'd get from spending a few hours in Grand Central Terminal.
Where did you get that from?
- dragonwriter 1y agoIf the hallucination machine can cite a source, check and cite that for facts, but don't cite the hallucination machine.
- uh_uh 1y agoWeird you don't have this requirement for the OP spewing his urban myths above.
- ssl-3 1y agoHuman hallucinations are natural. Machine hallucinations are avoidable.
- uh_uh 1y agoWas it hallucinating here, or are the commenters hallucinating? What OP is saying is just not true. A CT scan and normal daily commute in Grand Central station are NOT comparable in terms of radiation received. Somehow this is controversial because an AI said it?
- ssl-3 1y agoThe machine appears to have hallucinated the incomparable comparison, instead of a human. (And I'm not picking on the machine at all here. I use it all the time. At first, I used to treat it like an idiot intern that shouldn't have been hired at all: Creative and full of spirit, but untrustworthy and all ideas need to be filtered. But lately, it's more like an decent apprentice who has a hangover and isn't thinking straight today. The machine has been getting better as time presses on, but it still goes rather aloof from time to time.)
- uh_uh 1y agoI don't understand how was the machine hallucinating?
- ssl-3 1y agoAre you new to LLMs? They hallucinate shit all the time. It might even be said that all LLM output is a hallucination (but some of these hallucinations are useful).
- uh_uh 1y agoIt was NOT hallucinating this time. OP was. What do you mean all LLM output is hallucination? Would you say the same about AlphaGo? That system was also trained to predict human data initially yet it's competent to the point of beating most humans in Go.
- ssl-3 1y agoIs AlphaGo an LLM? Anyway, we were here: > Weird you don't have this requirement for the OP spewing his urban myths above. It isn't my purpose try to convince you that your apparent presumption that the output of a human and a machine are somehow equivalent and should be treated equally is wrong. So I won't.
- uh_uh 1y agoWhy is an LLM more prone to hallucination than AlphaGo? > It isn't my purpose try to convince you that your apparent presumption that the output of a human and a machine are somehow equivalent and should be treated equally is wrong. You should judge arguments by their merits, not by who is saying them.
- ssl-3 1y agoYou should have arguments, not gish gallops. I'm out.
- Guvante 1y agoDid you actually discredit someone or have you not properly considered your units in this response? Commute through the Grand Central station everyday is certainly not a few hours. And people don't tend to get a CT scan very frequently so the timeline here is massive.
- uh_uh 1y agoIn your opinion how many hours spent in Grand Central station equal the radiation received from a CT scan?
- itishappy 1y agoSomewhere between 7 and 700 days. CT Scan: 10-1000 mrem Grand Central Station: 525 mrem / yr https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED297952.pdf https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED297952.pdf
- uh_uh 1y agoSo OP's statement is true for people who live IN the station.
- itishappy 1y agoIt's roughly 40 min per workday over a typical year. That's a bit high but not unreasonably so.
- uh_uh 1y agoThat would amount to 10 mrem of radiation per year. I don't believe this is a realistic estimate for a CT scan though. From epa.gov [1]: - Head CT: 2.0 mSv (200 mrem) - Chest CT: 8.0 mSv (800 mrem) - Abdomen CT: 10 mSv (1,000 mrem) - Pelvis CT: 10 mSv (1,000 mrem) So for a head CT, one would need to spend more than 13 hours per workday in the station. OP was off at least an order of magnitude. https://www.epa.gov/radiation/frequent-questions-radiation-medicine https://www.epa.gov/radiation/frequent-questions-radiation-m...
- ramraj07 1y agoSo if you pass through GCT every day it does become comparable to a CT scan?