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"The Trump administration trapped a wrongly deported man in a catch-22", "There is no evidence that Abrego García is a terrorist or a member of the gang MS-13 a

"The Trump administration trapped a wrongly deported man in a catch-22", "There is no evidence that Abrego García is a terrorist or a member of the gang MS-13 as the Trump administration has claimed." from your first link.

flanked-evergl 2y ago
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- viraptor 2y ago
  Unless you can find a court hearing / docket / charges, or some report about them, he's innocent. If you think that's not enough, you're probably not innocent either... unless you have a way to prove that no charge exists against you in any jurisdiction in the world. Do you get why people assume innocence here now?
  - flanked-evergl 2y ago
    He entered illegally, had no legal status, had his asylum request rejected [1]. He was not innocent, he could be deported, just not to El Salvador. [1]: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13--what-do-we-know https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13...
- SoyAnto 2y ago
  I think you're arguing in bad faith. You would think this administration would jump at the opportunity of showing the media any proof that Abrego Garcia was a member of any gang, no matter how circumstantial or weak the proof is. But I've yet to see any of it.
  - flanked-evergl 2y ago
    He entered illegally, had no legal status, had his asylum request rejected [1]. He was not innocent, he could be deported, just not to El Salvador. [1]: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13--what-do-we-know https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13...
    - SoyAnto 2y ago
      You're moving the goalposts. You were arguing about his alleged gang membership and now your point is that he was an illegal. Also, other users showed that his deportation was suspended as he had been threatened by the gang members you allege he's a member of.
      - flanked-evergl 2y ago
        Not even almost once did this discussion start with me claiming he was a member of a gang.

flanked-evergl 2y ago

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viraptor 2y ago
Unless you can find a court hearing / docket / charges, or some report about them, he's innocent. If you think that's not enough, you're probably not innocent either... unless you have a way to prove that no charge exists against you in any jurisdiction in the world. Do you get why people assume innocence here now?
- flanked-evergl 2y ago
  He entered illegally, had no legal status, had his asylum request rejected [1]. He was not innocent, he could be deported, just not to El Salvador. [1]: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13--what-do-we-know https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13...
SoyAnto 2y ago
I think you're arguing in bad faith. You would think this administration would jump at the opportunity of showing the media any proof that Abrego Garcia was a member of any gang, no matter how circumstantial or weak the proof is. But I've yet to see any of it.
- flanked-evergl 2y ago
  He entered illegally, had no legal status, had his asylum request rejected [1]. He was not innocent, he could be deported, just not to El Salvador. [1]: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13--what-do-we-know https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13...
  - SoyAnto 2y ago
    You're moving the goalposts. You were arguing about his alleged gang membership and now your point is that he was an illegal. Also, other users showed that his deportation was suspended as he had been threatened by the gang members you allege he's a member of.
    - flanked-evergl 2y ago
      Not even almost once did this discussion start with me claiming he was a member of a gang.