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Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of

Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. [..] The frightening thing, he reflected for the ten thousandth time [..] was that it might all be true. If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or that event, it never happened -- that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death? [..] It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. 'Reality control', they called it: in Newspeak, 'doublethink'

varelse 2y ago
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- aisenik 2y ago
  Could you please cite some examples? This reads like a bunch of strawmen set up by someone aggrieved by trans rights and racial equality.
  - NoImmatureAdHom 2y ago
    The first Harvard one that comes to mind is Carole Hooven, an enocrinologist who was pilloried for speaking obvious truths: https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2024/02/15/carole-hooven-why-i-left-harvard/ https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2024/02/15/carole-hooven-wh...
    - aisenik 2y ago
      I think a clearly ideological actor leaving by choice after being ostracized for representing blatantly false and unscientific ideological claims is good, actually, and that providing this as an example is shifting your goalposts. For context, Carole Hooven is a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute, a right-wing "think-tank," and an associate of notable transphobe Stephen Pinker. The personal costs of her self-created ostracization seem minimal (perhaps negative). The statements that she made hinge on a supposed "strict sex binary," which relies upon forced ignorance and denial of the existence of intersex people. This is a weaponized claim used to gird the foundations of an ideology which has successfully sought to engage in human rights abuses, initially directed by this administration at denying children social acceptance and access to life-saving medical care as well as directly impugning the moral character of US military service members while attacking their access to life-saving medical care and discharging them from service. Simultaneously, Harvard has come under attack from the administration on a purely ideological and fascist basis. It seems like her critics were right to view her as a threat to science, human dignity, and the institution they mutually-represented.
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      - igloop 2y ago
        Sex is binary - for all species that reproduce sexually, including humans - because there is no intermediate gamete between sperm and egg. What you're referring to with "intersex" is actually a set of disorders of sex development which affect each sex differently. For example, consider 5-alpha reductase deficiency: a mutation in the gene that encodes the enzyme for converting testosterone to dihydrotestosterone, causing loss of enzymatic activity, may be present in anyone of either sex, but will only impair male sexual development. None of this is controversial amongst biologists. It's fundamental to understanding sexual reproduction.
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- ThePhreakenFone 2y ago
  So your position is - - Egalitarianism is newspeak/doublethink - McCarthyism is was an end to egalitarianism, until the 'previous regime' (which I take to mean a regime since 1959, whatever 'regime' that means). - Stating some people are lesser gets you fired from empirical institutions. In short, people being equal is soviet style communism, the old regime which included Regan and Nixon is over, and only now you can say what you want because something changed? This here is a fantastic example of newspeak, doublethink. Thank you for that
fuzztester 2y ago
The quotes seem to be from the famous book "1984" by George Orwell. We had it in English literature class in high school. There are some other famous quotes from that book or one of his other famous books, "Animal Farm". Writing from memory and googling, so may be wrong: "Some people are more equal than others." The society that Winston finds himself in puts forth the slogan, "War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength." The meaning of this phrase is to force confusion upon the members of the Party. It is a form of propaganda, or misleading information typically given by a political party. According to the article, the original version with "2 + 2 = 5" suggests complete submission to the oppressive regime, with the protagonist's mind being irreversibly altered. Technically part of the Ministry of Love, Room 101 is the most feared place in all of Oceania and Winston learns far too well that it is here that the … What is the final message of 1984? … a warning about the dangers of totalitarianism and the ability of a repressive regime to manipulate and control individuals to the point where they betray ... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm Animal Farm is even more creepy than 1984, going by my memory, which may be wrong, since it is quite some years since I read both those books.

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aisenik 2y ago
Could you please cite some examples? This reads like a bunch of strawmen set up by someone aggrieved by trans rights and racial equality.
- NoImmatureAdHom 2y ago
  The first Harvard one that comes to mind is Carole Hooven, an enocrinologist who was pilloried for speaking obvious truths: https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2024/02/15/carole-hooven-why-i-left-harvard/ https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2024/02/15/carole-hooven-wh...
  - aisenik 2y ago
    I think a clearly ideological actor leaving by choice after being ostracized for representing blatantly false and unscientific ideological claims is good, actually, and that providing this as an example is shifting your goalposts. For context, Carole Hooven is a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute, a right-wing "think-tank," and an associate of notable transphobe Stephen Pinker. The personal costs of her self-created ostracization seem minimal (perhaps negative). The statements that she made hinge on a supposed "strict sex binary," which relies upon forced ignorance and denial of the existence of intersex people. This is a weaponized claim used to gird the foundations of an ideology which has successfully sought to engage in human rights abuses, initially directed by this administration at denying children social acceptance and access to life-saving medical care as well as directly impugning the moral character of US military service members while attacking their access to life-saving medical care and discharging them from service. Simultaneously, Harvard has come under attack from the administration on a purely ideological and fascist basis. It seems like her critics were right to view her as a threat to science, human dignity, and the institution they mutually-represented.
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    - igloop 2y ago
      Sex is binary - for all species that reproduce sexually, including humans - because there is no intermediate gamete between sperm and egg. What you're referring to with "intersex" is actually a set of disorders of sex development which affect each sex differently. For example, consider 5-alpha reductase deficiency: a mutation in the gene that encodes the enzyme for converting testosterone to dihydrotestosterone, causing loss of enzymatic activity, may be present in anyone of either sex, but will only impair male sexual development. None of this is controversial amongst biologists. It's fundamental to understanding sexual reproduction.
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ThePhreakenFone 2y ago
So your position is - - Egalitarianism is newspeak/doublethink - McCarthyism is was an end to egalitarianism, until the 'previous regime' (which I take to mean a regime since 1959, whatever 'regime' that means). - Stating some people are lesser gets you fired from empirical institutions. In short, people being equal is soviet style communism, the old regime which included Regan and Nixon is over, and only now you can say what you want because something changed? This here is a fantastic example of newspeak, doublethink. Thank you for that

fuzztester 2y ago

The quotes seem to be from the famous book "1984" by George Orwell. We had it in English literature class in high school. There are some other famous quotes from that book or one of his other famous books, "Animal Farm". Writing from memory and googling, so may be wrong: "Some people are more equal than others." The society that Winston finds himself in puts forth the slogan, "War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength." The meaning of this phrase is to force confusion upon the members of the Party. It is a form of propaganda, or misleading information typically given by a political party. According to the article, the original version with "2 + 2 = 5" suggests complete submission to the oppressive regime, with the protagonist's mind being irreversibly altered. Technically part of the Ministry of Love, Room 101 is the most feared place in all of Oceania and Winston learns far too well that it is here that the … What is the final message of 1984? … a warning about the dangers of totalitarianism and the ability of a repressive regime to manipulate and control individuals to the point where they betray ... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm Animal Farm is even more creepy than 1984, going by my memory, which may be wrong, since it is quite some years since I read both those books.