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> It’s not like I can use Youtube or Tiktok instead of Whatsapp with my family for direct and group discussion. What's wrong with Signal? Or, worst-case scena

> It’s not like I can use Youtube or Tiktok instead of Whatsapp with my family for direct and group discussion. What's wrong with Signal? Or, worst-case scenario, Telegram?

emblaegh 2y ago
It’s hard to overstate the pervasiveness of WhatsApp in some some countries. Where I’m from work, service hiring, costumer service, etc are all conducted through (and specially for small businesses only though) WhatsApp.
- fransje26 2y ago
  That's very true, in the same way that some countries seem to prefer using Facebook as "websites" for small businesses. But this doesn't stop people from migrating their private interactions away from WhatsApp/Meta, by using using -as an example- Signal as their replacement app of choice where they can. The frictional cost of keeping WhatsApp for business interaction, and Signal for private interaction is fairly close to zero.
Gasp0de 2y ago
What's the use case for using Telegram over Whatsapp? At least the latter has proper end-to-end encryption of content?
- fsflover 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43563574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43563574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43562320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43562320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32950204 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32950204
_fat_santa 2y ago
> What's wrong with Signal? Or, worst-case scenario, Telegram? IMO from a technical perspective nothing but more of how do you get your entire network to migrate from one chat app to another. Everyone here says just get your parents, siblings, friends to switch but it's far more complicated than that. My wife is from Brazil and uses WA all the time. Getting her to switch would mean getting her entire network of family and friends to switch and you would have to make that pitch to everyone in the "network". All of a sudden it goes from getting a few people to switch to getting literally thousands to switch which is next to impossible.
- rpgbr 2y ago
  Plus, all carriers in Brazil exempts WhatsApp from data caps (zero-rating). They are working on remove other apps from zero-rating, but WhatsApp is harder to since it's synonymous to “messages” here and alternatives are expensive (SMS) or not as near widespread (Telegram is a far runner-up mostly used for its semi-public, huge groups).
- DrFalkyn 2y ago
  Is there some law that you can only use a single messaging app ?

> It’s not like I can use Youtube or Tiktok instead of Whatsapp with my family for direct and group discussion. What's wrong with Signal? Or, worst-case scenario, Telegram?

emblaegh 2y ago

It’s hard to overstate the pervasiveness of WhatsApp in some some countries. Where I’m from work, service hiring, costumer service, etc are all conducted through (and specially for small businesses only though) WhatsApp.

fransje26 2y ago
That's very true, in the same way that some countries seem to prefer using Facebook as "websites" for small businesses. But this doesn't stop people from migrating their private interactions away from WhatsApp/Meta, by using using -as an example- Signal as their replacement app of choice where they can. The frictional cost of keeping WhatsApp for business interaction, and Signal for private interaction is fairly close to zero.

Gasp0de 2y ago

What's the use case for using Telegram over Whatsapp? At least the latter has proper end-to-end encryption of content?

fsflover 2y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43563574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43563574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43562320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43562320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32950204 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32950204

_fat_santa 2y ago

> What's wrong with Signal? Or, worst-case scenario, Telegram? IMO from a technical perspective nothing but more of how do you get your entire network to migrate from one chat app to another. Everyone here says just get your parents, siblings, friends to switch but it's far more complicated than that. My wife is from Brazil and uses WA all the time. Getting her to switch would mean getting her entire network of family and friends to switch and you would have to make that pitch to everyone in the "network". All of a sudden it goes from getting a few people to switch to getting literally thousands to switch which is next to impossible.

rpgbr 2y ago
Plus, all carriers in Brazil exempts WhatsApp from data caps (zero-rating). They are working on remove other apps from zero-rating, but WhatsApp is harder to since it's synonymous to “messages” here and alternatives are expensive (SMS) or not as near widespread (Telegram is a far runner-up mostly used for its semi-public, huge groups).
DrFalkyn 2y ago
Is there some law that you can only use a single messaging app ?