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Except homeland has been Egypt before it was Palestine. And Jews lived in both places peacefully after the Arabs established peace. Antisemitism is not what yo
by nashashmi 2y ago
Except homeland has been Egypt before it was Palestine. And Jews lived in both places peacefully after the Arabs established peace.
Antisemitism is not what you want to make it out to be. It is as much a hatred against Arabs as it is against Jews, as Zionist Christians want to fill the land with Jews just so the end of the world is near, without any consideration for what happens to the Arab natives of the region.
- nailer 2y agoArabs never ‘established peace’ - historians largely agree that Islam was spread through conquest. Under Arab colonisation Jewish people either lived as Dhimmis, which are second class citizens, or were subject to outright violence (you can find many incidences of this before 1948), or both.
- nashashmi 2y agoYes, peace happens after conquest. Colonization never occurred. And if you want to know what happened to the Jews after Arabs conquered, listen to this historian speak: https://youtu.be/9bBlv0hfj5c?si=JVi7tMYTPwBI97gT https://youtu.be/9bBlv0hfj5c?si=JVi7tMYTPwBI97gT
- nailer 2y ago> peace happens after conquest No, it doesn’t. This is discussed in the comment you responded to. To deny the Arab colonisation of the middle east is simultaneously hilarious and disgusting, the one does see this occasionally amongst arab nationalists that have recently infiltrated the American left and caused the issues at Harvard and elsewhere.
- nashashmi 2y agoI guess you didn’t watch the video link?
- nailer 2y agoYou guessed incorrectly. Being (according to this man) better than other colonizers does not obviate the behaviour described in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43690612 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43690612.
- nashashmi 2y agoIt eliminates the argument you proposed that Arabs didn’t establish peace. Arab conquests established justice which included bringing the Jews back.
- nailer 2y agoNo, it doesn’t. You need to read my posts before replying to them. I’m going to block you now, Not, because you’re a very good at arguing, but because you’re very poor at it. PS: the man speaking is Ray Casagranda. Many laypersons know know more about Middle Eastern history than he does.
- nashashmi 2y agoYou can’t block anyone on here. And you can’t be here to argue if you don’t make an argument. And you can’t attack anyone just because they don’t agree with you. Roy is a historian unlike yourself.
- nailer 2y agoYou can with extensions. > you don’t make an argument. I have made an argument, here's a fourth reminder. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43690612 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43690612 You haven't responded once. I could knock anything from Ray from Austin Community College out of the park. His video on the creation of Israel is full of falsehoods that are easily proven wrong, that's where I recognised him from. If he's an historian, I am too. Which reminds me I need to click the block button.