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They're 'not allowed to'. But they did. Trump & co pulled one over on you. Just because it's not in the GPoE does not mean it doesn't exist. It appears to b

by ty6853 2y ago

They're 'not allowed to'. But they did. Trump & co pulled one over on you. Just because it's not in the GPoE does not mean it doesn't exist. It appears to be an informally arranged contract. Federal judges and 'memos' also recognizes this contract. Bukele and Trump publicly have reiterated much of the terms. I do not know if you will ever see a single traditional looking contract paper you desire, but the evidence is everywhere, not the least of which that the memos statements and actual reality of El Salvador taking prisoners on behalf the US and publicly stating they have an agreement to do it.

sorcerer-mar 2y ago
What? I am not claiming there is no "agreement", duh. You can't fly aircraft full of prisoners into a foreign country and have a televised propaganda show depositing them into a gulag without "an agreement." Great job moving the goal posts and answering now to my original point: the USG has not produced evidence of a contract, as they are legally required to have and present. Neither I, nor you, nor the public, nor the judge actually know what the terms of any agreement actually are. We know only what appeared in a memo written about an agreement. Sorry but there's no way you thought I was suggesting the US just unilaterally put people in a foreign prison, lol. Good luck lifting those goal posts.
- ty6853 2y ago
  You're punching your fist into the air because the contract is not in a form you'd like. In the same judgements, judges go on to either call, or quote the calling of the facility as a 'contract' facility after establishing the contract agreement.
  - sorcerer-mar 2y ago
    Just to refresh for anyone reading along: > The contract between the two countries is only for 1 year Ty's red herrings about court filings and so on are just that: red herrings. All sources lead back to exactly one piece of information, which is an AP article about a memo from El Salvador about an agreement. That AP article claims the memo says the following: "El Salvador confirms it will house these individuals for one (1) year, pending the United States’ decision on their long term disposition" That's it. It does not say "only" for one year. There is no information about the renewal terms. There is no information about what happens after one year. No one has produced the full set of terms of this agreement, and no one has produced evidence (as is required under US law) that an actual signed contract even exists (as is required under US law). Readers can assess that how they wish.

by ty6853 2y ago

sorcerer-mar 2y ago

What? I am not claiming there is no "agreement", duh. You can't fly aircraft full of prisoners into a foreign country and have a televised propaganda show depositing them into a gulag without "an agreement." Great job moving the goal posts and answering now to my original point: the USG has not produced evidence of a contract, as they are legally required to have and present. Neither I, nor you, nor the public, nor the judge actually know what the terms of any agreement actually are. We know only what appeared in a memo written about an agreement. Sorry but there's no way you thought I was suggesting the US just unilaterally put people in a foreign prison, lol. Good luck lifting those goal posts.

ty6853 2y ago
You're punching your fist into the air because the contract is not in a form you'd like. In the same judgements, judges go on to either call, or quote the calling of the facility as a 'contract' facility after establishing the contract agreement.
- sorcerer-mar 2y ago
  Just to refresh for anyone reading along: > The contract between the two countries is only for 1 year Ty's red herrings about court filings and so on are just that: red herrings. All sources lead back to exactly one piece of information, which is an AP article about a memo from El Salvador about an agreement. That AP article claims the memo says the following: "El Salvador confirms it will house these individuals for one (1) year, pending the United States’ decision on their long term disposition" That's it. It does not say "only" for one year. There is no information about the renewal terms. There is no information about what happens after one year. No one has produced the full set of terms of this agreement, and no one has produced evidence (as is required under US law) that an actual signed contract even exists (as is required under US law). Readers can assess that how they wish.