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> criminals At the risk of stating the obvious: This qualifier is void. Trump thinks anything people say that he doesn't like is criminal or can be made-to-be.

by Terr_ 2y ago

> criminals At the risk of stating the obvious: This qualifier is void. Trump thinks anything people say that he doesn't like is criminal or can be made-to-be. FFS the man has said a 60 Minutes' interview with President Zelenskyy (which painted Trump in an unflattering light) is a crime that validates destroying an entire television network.

marcusverus 2y ago
> At the risk of stating the obvious: This qualifier is void. So it's okay to deceptively edit it out? Seems shady.
- Terr_ 2y ago
  "Herr Hitler clearly said that he would only be sending criminals to the next round of concentration camps, editing that out seems shady." The most-charitable explanation is that you are clueless about current events, and don't understand that the government is already committing crimes against innocent people and lying about it. Otherwise: > Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. -- Jean-Paul Sartre, 1946
  - marcusverus 2y ago
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    - Terr_ 2y ago
      > vague, hand-wavy allegation There's nothing "vague" about the past couple of weeks of news, court-cases, admissions, and flat-out bragging by the administration. Stop feigning ignorance. > staking out a pro-deception stance The real pro-deception stance is yours: Demanding that known falsehoods and propaganda be repeated verbatim.
      - marcusverus 2y ago
        > There's nothing "vague" about the past couple of weeks of news, court-cases, admissions, and flat-out bragging by the administration. Stop feigning ignorance. Pretending not to know what "vague" means isn't an argument. > The real pro-deception stance is yours: Demanding that known falsehoods and propaganda be repeated verbatim. Expecting honest quotations is pro-deception. Got it. Good chat, Beelzebub.
        affinepplan 2y ago
        except it was an honest quotation. what I wrote was said by Trump in the video.
        marcusverus 2y ago
        If you share a quote out of context, knowing that it will be taken to mean something other than what it obviously meant in context, you are being deceptive. Children are taught this in middle school.
        affinepplan 2y ago
        it is not out of context. you are being deceptive that somehow surrounding context of the statement justifies such a horrible proposition from POTUS.
        marcusverus 2y ago

by Terr_ 2y ago

marcusverus 2y ago

> At the risk of stating the obvious: This qualifier is void. So it's okay to deceptively edit it out? Seems shady.

Terr_ 2y ago
"Herr Hitler clearly said that he would only be sending criminals to the next round of concentration camps, editing that out seems shady." The most-charitable explanation is that you are clueless about current events, and don't understand that the government is already committing crimes against innocent people and lying about it. Otherwise: > Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. -- Jean-Paul Sartre, 1946
- marcusverus 2y ago
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  - Terr_ 2y ago
    > vague, hand-wavy allegation There's nothing "vague" about the past couple of weeks of news, court-cases, admissions, and flat-out bragging by the administration. Stop feigning ignorance. > staking out a pro-deception stance The real pro-deception stance is yours: Demanding that known falsehoods and propaganda be repeated verbatim.
    - marcusverus 2y ago
      > There's nothing "vague" about the past couple of weeks of news, court-cases, admissions, and flat-out bragging by the administration. Stop feigning ignorance. Pretending not to know what "vague" means isn't an argument. > The real pro-deception stance is yours: Demanding that known falsehoods and propaganda be repeated verbatim. Expecting honest quotations is pro-deception. Got it. Good chat, Beelzebub.
      - affinepplan 2y ago
        except it was an honest quotation. what I wrote was said by Trump in the video.
        marcusverus 2y ago
        If you share a quote out of context, knowing that it will be taken to mean something other than what it obviously meant in context, you are being deceptive. Children are taught this in middle school.
        affinepplan 2y ago
        it is not out of context. you are being deceptive that somehow surrounding context of the statement justifies such a horrible proposition from POTUS.
        marcusverus 2y ago