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I did; it explicitly demanding an audit of employees and students political views, the forced hiring of more professors who are sympathetic to the current admin
by esrauch 2y ago
I did; it explicitly demanding an audit of employees and students political views, the forced hiring of more professors who are sympathetic to the current administration's politics.
That doesn't sound authoritarian to you? Can you imagine if Obama had demanded that any university do an ideological purge of its conservative staff and students?
- BuckRogers 2y ago[flagged]
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- nineplay 2y agoWhat specifical threat to our nation are they trying to defend against?
- BuckRogers 2y ago[flagged]
- pqtyw 2y agoWell yes.. an attempt by pseudo-fascists to takeover universities and other public institutions is indeed a matter of national security.
- ziddoap 2y agoYou only used one of the magical thought-stopping phrases. You're supposed to say that it will help the children too.
- AlexandrB 2y ago> Can you imagine if Obama had demanded that any university do an ideological purge of its conservative staff and students? Obama didn't need to demand it, the Universities went ahead and did it on their own. https://unsafescience.substack.com/p/the-last-four-years-were-the-most https://unsafescience.substack.com/p/the-last-four-years-wer...
- wnoise 2y agoSo not a comparable situation. In this intra-elite competition, the previous winners might deserve to lose. The current regime and its allies absolutely cannot be allowed to be winners.
- FloorEgg 2y agoYes it does sound authoritarian. Thank you for answering my question in good faith. I am noticing a pattern; whenever I ask clarifying questions on hacker news threads regarding politically charged topics, most people assume least-respectful interpretation of my questions and heavily downvote them. As someone who is curious and genuinely trying to understand what's going on (I am here instead of other social media because I am looking for nuance, analysis, details, etc), it's really frustrating and disappointing when I am attacked for asking questions. So thank you, again, for engaging in my question constructively.
- yencabulator 1y agoIt's because you sounded like a sealion. That and whataboutism are just adding refuting noises without substance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
- FloorEgg 1y agoThank you, never heard of that concept before. I don't think I was doing that but I can see how it could appear that way. I can't figure out how to get back to the parent comment to see what I was responding to, but I think I asked that because I was trying to understand if the commenter was reacting only to the Harvard letter and preconceptions about the administration, or the administration's letter itself. I could have been more thoughtful about the question. I have very little experience engaging in political discourse on the internet. So I asked the question like I would to a friend. I'm realizing now that the best way for me to engage is simply to take these threads and paste them into an LLM and have it explain the nuance and context to me. I just wish there was a forum for conversing about this stuff with real people with diverse viewpoints and who kept to most respectful interpretations.
- ConspiracyFact 1y agoThe notion of "Sealioning" is a perfect example of substituting mockery for criticism. See also: "What about the menz?!", "Akshully...", "tips fedora", etc., etc.
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