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Yeah, well reasoned take. Hackernews is way too defensive about AI. Open AI didn't go from 0 to $5b because of hype, it got there because of how useful it is.

bigstrat2003 2y ago
I strongly disagree with that, because it's not useful. That company exists on hype alone.
- bobxmax 2y ago
  Of course, the millions of people using it every day are doing it because of hype. The clueless arrogance of devs on HN will never cease to amaze me.
  - belter 2y ago
    Give me a real enterprise use case...If it existed, Google would not be offering their model for free...
    - snapcaster 2y ago
      use case: my company pays for enterprise ChatGPT
    - bobxmax 2y ago
      - customer support automation - marketing copy - sales automation - internal knowledge base - analytics - onboarding & hr - notetaking do you want me to keep going?
      - belter 2y ago
        customer support automation - "Sorry, I didn’t understand your request. Please type your issue again…" is the fastest way to make someone hate your brand. marketing copy -> Not paying my marketing team to put out obliviously AI generated texts. People will notice and will hurt the company reputation. sales automation - As in? Perfect place for random hallucinations? internal knowledge base - Search in pretty good in full text. Training a model with all company data will be too expensive to justify the benefits of finding the correct technote one second faster? Plus do we want to hallucinate while doing airplane maintenance? analytics - Not enough to justify current valuations. onboarding & hr - Really? Hallucinations cough...cough notetaking - You need AI for that?
        bobxmax 2y ago
        lol always leave it to ignorant devs on HN to speak a bunch of nonsense confidently you know absolutely nothing about how enterprise companies work and why 10% of the internet pay to use chatgpt
        belter 2y ago
        You do know they have only 10 million paying subscribers? As opposed to the (non audited) claim of 400 million regular users ( non paying and non audited). And losing money on every prompt.... 10% of the internet...Oh my....Do you regularly quote Sam Altman? "Sam Altman says ‘10% of the world now uses our systems a lot’" - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sam-altman-says-10-world-112329758.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sam-altman-says-10-world-1123...
        belter 2y ago
        "Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes mass user cancellations" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43683012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43683012 your honour, I rest my case....
        bobxmax 1y ago
        Who gives a shit? Interns have shut down AWS before, does that mean nobody should hire anyone again?
        belter 1y ago
        > Interns have shut down AWS before Please provide a reference for this outrageous claim. Unless you are just looking for an argument? I am ok with it, but it will cost you: https://youtu.be/uLlv_aZjHXc https://youtu.be/uLlv_aZjHXc
Capricorn2481 2y ago
It's useful alright, but not to us. I wish people would understand ChatGPT is a toy for consumers, and the real prize of AI is handling the mountains of data tech has been leeching for years. Sam puts out vague worries of AGI Armageddon so CNBC anchors, who can't even turn their computer on, can argue about that all day because it's juicy. These are the same people that thought the Metaverse was a huge deal, and not just unfinished plans for VR Second Life. Meanwhile, any company with good AI tech and enough data can classify, minimize, eradicate, and automate as much of our lives as possible. There's going to be no regulation on it, because we have never been about to keep up with text regulation. And we are told we signed up for it when we were 15, trying to log into an app store on the new device all of our friends had.

bigstrat2003 2y ago

I strongly disagree with that, because it's not useful. That company exists on hype alone.

bobxmax 2y ago
Of course, the millions of people using it every day are doing it because of hype. The clueless arrogance of devs on HN will never cease to amaze me.
- belter 2y ago
  Give me a real enterprise use case...If it existed, Google would not be offering their model for free...
  - snapcaster 2y ago
    use case: my company pays for enterprise ChatGPT
  - bobxmax 2y ago
    - customer support automation - marketing copy - sales automation - internal knowledge base - analytics - onboarding & hr - notetaking do you want me to keep going?
    - belter 2y ago
      customer support automation - "Sorry, I didn’t understand your request. Please type your issue again…" is the fastest way to make someone hate your brand. marketing copy -> Not paying my marketing team to put out obliviously AI generated texts. People will notice and will hurt the company reputation. sales automation - As in? Perfect place for random hallucinations? internal knowledge base - Search in pretty good in full text. Training a model with all company data will be too expensive to justify the benefits of finding the correct technote one second faster? Plus do we want to hallucinate while doing airplane maintenance? analytics - Not enough to justify current valuations. onboarding & hr - Really? Hallucinations cough...cough notetaking - You need AI for that?
      - bobxmax 2y ago
        lol always leave it to ignorant devs on HN to speak a bunch of nonsense confidently you know absolutely nothing about how enterprise companies work and why 10% of the internet pay to use chatgpt
        belter 2y ago
        You do know they have only 10 million paying subscribers? As opposed to the (non audited) claim of 400 million regular users ( non paying and non audited). And losing money on every prompt.... 10% of the internet...Oh my....Do you regularly quote Sam Altman? "Sam Altman says ‘10% of the world now uses our systems a lot’" - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sam-altman-says-10-world-112329758.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sam-altman-says-10-world-1123...
        belter 2y ago
        "Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes mass user cancellations" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43683012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43683012 your honour, I rest my case....
        bobxmax 1y ago
        Who gives a shit? Interns have shut down AWS before, does that mean nobody should hire anyone again?
        belter 1y ago
        > Interns have shut down AWS before Please provide a reference for this outrageous claim. Unless you are just looking for an argument? I am ok with it, but it will cost you: https://youtu.be/uLlv_aZjHXc https://youtu.be/uLlv_aZjHXc

Capricorn2481 2y ago

It's useful alright, but not to us. I wish people would understand ChatGPT is a toy for consumers, and the real prize of AI is handling the mountains of data tech has been leeching for years. Sam puts out vague worries of AGI Armageddon so CNBC anchors, who can't even turn their computer on, can argue about that all day because it's juicy. These are the same people that thought the Metaverse was a huge deal, and not just unfinished plans for VR Second Life. Meanwhile, any company with good AI tech and enough data can classify, minimize, eradicate, and automate as much of our lives as possible. There's going to be no regulation on it, because we have never been about to keep up with text regulation. And we are told we signed up for it when we were 15, trying to log into an app store on the new device all of our friends had.