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Hmmm. What's unique about pregnancy in the US compared to other high-income countries I wonder? /s

ty6853 1y ago
For one, a higher proportion vs pretty much all other high income countries of the two groups that dragged it down the most, 'native americans' and 'blacks' (for whatever definition of that this study used).
- johnnyjeans 1y ago
  Two high-risk demographics for inadequate medical care. Something I hadn't thought about up until this point, would socialized healthcare improve the situation for natives? I foresee a lot of legal boilerplate and additional acts required to interface with the reservations on a healthcare basis. On top of that, the wealthy reservations already have their own system which is much more equitable than the national one. The reservations that are struggling, where these figures are the worst, are very rural. I'm not aware of any country where rural access to healthcare is "very good". Certainly we'd see some kind of improvement with stronger, more centralized federal support... but would we even reach adequate levels?
  - throwawaymaths 1y ago
    There already is socialized medicine provided to native Americans (IHS, if you were not aware).
    - OneDeuxTriSeiGo 1y ago
      Just because the program exists doesn't mean native americans are getting good access to healthcare. Likewise you'd expect that native americans would have access to drinking water given that the government provides some amount of guarantees for that as well but substantial portions of the reservations in the southwest have been systematically denied water rights and as such have limited access to drinking water.
      - throwawaymaths 1y ago
        You made my point exactly. Why do you think "socialized healthcare" would ameliorate the situation that native Americans are high risk?
- os2warpman 1y ago
  I don't know why you would as it ignores half of all pregnant Americans, but if you exclude all groups except white women the age-standardized annual and aggregated rate of pregnancy-related mortality is still 27.6 deaths per 100,000 pregnancies. Double that of Europe. That is pathetic and unquestionably attributable in large part to our shitty and broken healthcare disaster.

For one, a higher proportion vs pretty much all other high income countries of the two groups that dragged it down the most, 'native americans' and 'blacks' (for whatever definition of that this study used).

johnnyjeans 1y ago
Two high-risk demographics for inadequate medical care. Something I hadn't thought about up until this point, would socialized healthcare improve the situation for natives? I foresee a lot of legal boilerplate and additional acts required to interface with the reservations on a healthcare basis. On top of that, the wealthy reservations already have their own system which is much more equitable than the national one. The reservations that are struggling, where these figures are the worst, are very rural. I'm not aware of any country where rural access to healthcare is "very good". Certainly we'd see some kind of improvement with stronger, more centralized federal support... but would we even reach adequate levels?
- throwawaymaths 1y ago
  There already is socialized medicine provided to native Americans (IHS, if you were not aware).
  - OneDeuxTriSeiGo 1y ago
    Just because the program exists doesn't mean native americans are getting good access to healthcare. Likewise you'd expect that native americans would have access to drinking water given that the government provides some amount of guarantees for that as well but substantial portions of the reservations in the southwest have been systematically denied water rights and as such have limited access to drinking water.
    - throwawaymaths 1y ago
      You made my point exactly. Why do you think "socialized healthcare" would ameliorate the situation that native Americans are high risk?
os2warpman 1y ago
I don't know why you would as it ignores half of all pregnant Americans, but if you exclude all groups except white women the age-standardized annual and aggregated rate of pregnancy-related mortality is still 27.6 deaths per 100,000 pregnancies. Double that of Europe. That is pathetic and unquestionably attributable in large part to our shitty and broken healthcare disaster.