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Where were they from? As a South American I'm having difficult figuring out which country is socialist in this continent. Venezuela?

sbassi 2y ago
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nomdep 2y ago
Most (all?) the terrorist groups of Latin America were self-declared marxist/communist, like "Shining Part" in Peru: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Path https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Path
- owebmaster 2y ago
  That's true. Which just prove the government of those countries were never marxist/communist.
- antithesizer 2y ago
  Not even close. For example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_paramilitarism_in_Colombia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_paramilitarism_in...
- NoTeslaThrow 2y ago
  This is much more revealing of how western media reports on Latin America than anything.
- dysoco 2y ago
  Except the most pervasive and deadliest terrorist groups in the history of South America have been the government, in the form of right-wing military dictatorships, often preaching about free market and being backed by the USA. People just forget to refer to them as such.
  - cryptonector 2y ago
    Argentina's military rulers were not free marketeers. Far from it. They were brutal though.
    - NoTeslaThrow 2y ago
      Is there anyone who both understands what the term free market term entails and still argues for it? Somehow no proponent of free markets has managed both success and influence
      - owebmaster 2y ago
        Only teenagers think they know what it is and that it is the solution to all problems
        NoTeslaThrow 2y ago
        And yet, "free market" advocates are boldly positioned in publications across our culture, pitching utopia and delivering dystopia.
      - cryptonector 2y ago
        How is your reply relevant to my comment? I said the Argentine military rulers were far from free marketeers, and indeed, so they were. Their ideas in economics were very much of the protectionist / populist sort, and not just as to international trade, but in every way. It's almost as though the only difference between them and Perón et. al. was really about who shall govern, not what shall they do, except perhaps that the military rulers were a bit more subtle in their populism in that they were explicitly against cults of personality. Oh, and let's not forget that Perón was a military ruler... Basically it was a turf war -- a brutal one, yes, but let's not pretend that any of them were free marketeers doing what laissez faire American gringo yankee capitalists wanted. They did take training help from the U.S. at various times (don't forget that Argentina had several distinct post-war periods of military rule), and Pinochet in Chile in particular had the support of Nixon and Kissinger and the U.S. government, but the Argentine junta of 1976-1983 did not have Carter's support.

sbassi 2y ago

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nomdep 2y ago

Most (all?) the terrorist groups of Latin America were self-declared marxist/communist, like "Shining Part" in Peru: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Path https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Path

owebmaster 2y ago
That's true. Which just prove the government of those countries were never marxist/communist.
antithesizer 2y ago
Not even close. For example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_paramilitarism_in_Colombia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_paramilitarism_in...
NoTeslaThrow 2y ago
This is much more revealing of how western media reports on Latin America than anything.
dysoco 2y ago
Except the most pervasive and deadliest terrorist groups in the history of South America have been the government, in the form of right-wing military dictatorships, often preaching about free market and being backed by the USA. People just forget to refer to them as such.
- cryptonector 2y ago
  Argentina's military rulers were not free marketeers. Far from it. They were brutal though.
  - NoTeslaThrow 2y ago
    Is there anyone who both understands what the term free market term entails and still argues for it? Somehow no proponent of free markets has managed both success and influence
    - owebmaster 2y ago
      Only teenagers think they know what it is and that it is the solution to all problems
      - NoTeslaThrow 2y ago
        And yet, "free market" advocates are boldly positioned in publications across our culture, pitching utopia and delivering dystopia.
    - cryptonector 2y ago
      How is your reply relevant to my comment? I said the Argentine military rulers were far from free marketeers, and indeed, so they were. Their ideas in economics were very much of the protectionist / populist sort, and not just as to international trade, but in every way. It's almost as though the only difference between them and Perón et. al. was really about who shall govern, not what shall they do, except perhaps that the military rulers were a bit more subtle in their populism in that they were explicitly against cults of personality. Oh, and let's not forget that Perón was a military ruler... Basically it was a turf war -- a brutal one, yes, but let's not pretend that any of them were free marketeers doing what laissez faire American gringo yankee capitalists wanted. They did take training help from the U.S. at various times (don't forget that Argentina had several distinct post-war periods of military rule), and Pinochet in Chile in particular had the support of Nixon and Kissinger and the U.S. government, but the Argentine junta of 1976-1983 did not have Carter's support.