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low eu salaries implies finding job is hard. fact.

• perching_aix 2y ago
  > low eu salaries implies finding job is hard. fact. Does it? Sounds more like an opinion than a fact to me.
  • zorked 2y ago
    If there was demand the salaries would rise. It's capitalism.
    • oblio 2y ago
      Umm... output. Outside of hyperscalers and probably the tier below them, most EU tech companies aren't making the kind of money per headcount to justify huge salaries. There is demand for tech workers, but the output of EU tech companies can't afford huge salaries. Lower margins.
• Scandiravian 2y ago
  There's a higher monthly salary in the US, sure. However, you're expected to work very long hours (60-80 hours per week) and get basically no time off In my current position I'm hired for an expected 37 hours per week. This can be more if I'm asked to work overtime, but my weekly hours cannot exceed 45 hours per week on average in a 3 month window without additional compensation Additionally I have six weeks of paid time off every year plus public holidays If I calculate my hourly salary it's better than what I was paid by US companies That's not to mention the security of having a legally mandated termination period of minimum 3 months (in which you're, in most cases, not expected to work)
  • scarface_74 2y ago
    I have never in 28 years across 10 jobs including one in BigTech been “expected” to work more than 40 hours a week. It’s a bunch of copium thinking that American tech workers are working 60-80 hour weeks. And I know it’s not the norm, but right now I have “unlimited PTO” and most people take at least 5 weeks a year. If the average American tech worker is making 2x - 4x the average EU worker, they should be able to save more than enough to have a three month cushion. And we are talking about Google. They have a very generous severance package. Even Amazon where I use to work gave me three months severance.
    • mcv 2y ago
      This is not what we usually hear about employment in the US. The reason many Europeans think American tech workers are working 60-80 hours per week is not copium, but simply because that's what many Americans tell us.
      • isbvhodnvemrwvn 2y ago
        Why would they be complaining about working 40h a week? You will obviously hear more about bad experiences than the norm.
        • mcv 2y ago
          We hear enough about it that it gives the impression of being very common, even if it might not be the norm.
          • apwell23 2y ago
            its not common but i know nothing can convince you of that
            • mcv 2y ago
              How can you know that? Please don't assume stuff about others just to make a rhetorical point. If you say it's not that common as it's often made out to be, why wouldn't I believe you? Though what would also help if you had an explanation for why we tend to hear these stories mostly from the US and not from other countries.
              • isbvhodnvemrwvn 2y ago
                How much content you consume comes from the US vs other countries? The US has a full cultural supremacy in the west. That's why you speak english and read YC.
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  • apwell23 2y ago
    never worked more than 40hr/week (including hellhole amazon). i get 28 days pto now and unlimited sick days. > If I calculate my hourly salary it's better than what I was paid by US companies prbly not.
  • cloverich 2y ago
    I worked 80 hours a week in medical school, depending on the rotation. From that experience I can tell you, the majority of people that say they work 80 hours a week, don't even know what that looks like.
  • geodel 2y ago
    This 60-80 hrs/week maybe a startup myth. Since Europe in general has far fewer startups than US people hear these wild numbers in Europe far less. For normal big tech worker, or enterprise workers 40 hrs is really the norm. Now many people specially in contracting, consulting can stretch hours for billing purpose or impressing upon clients thats a different matter.
• tempfile 2y ago
  What a waste of a comment. Low salaries typically imply finding a job is easier, because more potential employers can afford to pay you. Can you add any kind of evidence, argument, anything? Saying "fact" after an armchair guess does not make it one.
  • apwell23 2y ago
    > Low salaries typically imply finding a job is easier, because more potential employers can afford to pay you. Can you add any kind of evidence, argument, anything? sorry i forgot to add "typically" which apparently is a license to spout any BS .
    • tempfile 2y ago
      You started the argument!