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Indeed, but that is just ideology, not based on any facts.
by tempfile 1y ago
Indeed, but that is just ideology, not based on any facts.
- apwell23 1y agolow eu salaries implies finding job is hard. fact.
- perching_aix 1y ago> low eu salaries implies finding job is hard. fact. Does it? Sounds more like an opinion than a fact to me.
- zorked 1y agoIf there was demand the salaries would rise. It's capitalism.
- oblio 1y agoUmm... output. Outside of hyperscalers and probably the tier below them, most EU tech companies aren't making the kind of money per headcount to justify huge salaries. There is demand for tech workers, but the output of EU tech companies can't afford huge salaries. Lower margins.
- Scandiravian 1y agoThere's a higher monthly salary in the US, sure. However, you're expected to work very long hours (60-80 hours per week) and get basically no time off In my current position I'm hired for an expected 37 hours per week. This can be more if I'm asked to work overtime, but my weekly hours cannot exceed 45 hours per week on average in a 3 month window without additional compensation Additionally I have six weeks of paid time off every year plus public holidays If I calculate my hourly salary it's better than what I was paid by US companies That's not to mention the security of having a legally mandated termination period of minimum 3 months (in which you're, in most cases, not expected to work)
- scarface_74 1y agoI have never in 28 years across 10 jobs including one in BigTech been “expected” to work more than 40 hours a week. It’s a bunch of copium thinking that American tech workers are working 60-80 hour weeks. And I know it’s not the norm, but right now I have “unlimited PTO” and most people take at least 5 weeks a year. If the average American tech worker is making 2x - 4x the average EU worker, they should be able to save more than enough to have a three month cushion. And we are talking about Google. They have a very generous severance package. Even Amazon where I use to work gave me three months severance.
- mcv 1y agoThis is not what we usually hear about employment in the US. The reason many Europeans think American tech workers are working 60-80 hours per week is not copium, but simply because that's what many Americans tell us.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 1y agoWhy would they be complaining about working 40h a week? You will obviously hear more about bad experiences than the norm.
- mcv 1y agoWe hear enough about it that it gives the impression of being very common, even if it might not be the norm.
- apwell23 1y agoits not common but i know nothing can convince you of that
- mcv 1y agoHow can you know that? Please don't assume stuff about others just to make a rhetorical point. If you say it's not that common as it's often made out to be, why wouldn't I believe you? Though what would also help if you had an explanation for why we tend to hear these stories mostly from the US and not from other countries.
- tempfile 1y agoWhat a waste of a comment. Low salaries typically imply finding a job is easier, because more potential employers can afford to pay you. Can you add any kind of evidence, argument, anything? Saying "fact" after an armchair guess does not make it one.
- apwell23 1y ago> Low salaries typically imply finding a job is easier, because more potential employers can afford to pay you. Can you add any kind of evidence, argument, anything? sorry i forgot to add "typically" which apparently is a license to spout any BS .
- tempfile 1y agoYou started the argument!