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Kezurou-Kai #39
- finnh 2y agoThat room must have smelled amazing. I want to go hang out there.
- WJW 2y agoWow 10 micron is a lot smaller than I thought a handmade wood shaving would be. Th champions are even better in the single digits consistently.
- temp0826 2y agoThe picture of the winners had "3 4 5" and "4 4 4" which I think is 3 measurements on each of the cuts
- tcholewik 2y ago10 microns is about the size of cells that make up wood shaving. And those traditional hand planners used in this competition existed for couple thousand years now with very few changes(most recent on being the chip breaker brought to japan about 200 years ago). I might be repeating stuff for the article but I read this one long ago so no longer sure if it includes this. Lol
- azazel75 2y ago[flagged]
- EncomLab 2y agoFascinating! I love when people see and appreciate a simple skill, then take it to the most extreme level of refinement possible.
- kappasan 2y agoTangential but the name is a pun - "kezuroukai" translates to "shall we shave?" in Japanese, but "kai" can also mean something like "gathering" or "community".
- bamboozled 2y agoJapanese hand plane has to be one of the most satisfying tools to use...if you're into wood working, really worth trying one.
- cinntaile 2y agoWhat's the difference between a regular hand plane and a Japanese one? They look quite similar to me?
- marcomourao 2y agoJapanese hand planes shave with a pull motion instead of push.
- aredox 2y agoQuite a few different "technological" choices, mostly informed by different circumstances: -You pull them instead of pushing them, because Japanese carpenters used to work on the floor using their own body to brace the work piece -All wood construction because steel has always been a rare material in a volcanic island without much iron ore veins like Japan -Most Japanese native woods (pawlonia, cedar) are on the soft side compared to European and American (and from the XIXth century onwards, tropical such as ebony, mahogany) woods. Which is also why they manage to make such thing shavings without tears.
- yojo 2y agoI wonder if the pulling motion helps with less tearing too. From my limited understanding of drafting and painting, humans are able to exhibit much better control when pulling a pencil/brush toward them than when pushing away. I’ve only ever used a western-style push planet, but intuitively I think I’d have more control with one designed for pulling.
- Daneel_ 2y agoI've seen some contestants(?) plane at a slight angle too. I feel like this would also assist with achieving a cleaner result. I know I do this with my own push-style planer.
- zkmon 2y agoWondering why it is so satisfying. It tells that what you pursue doesn't matter. It can be a wood-planing contest or some silly hobby. What matters is that you are motivated to pursue it. You believe in improving that pursuit, you see others doing the same, you believe it is the social norm, you see that it is valued and respected. And most importantly you feel good about it. Talk about things like investing in stocks, being known as a great techie or entrepreneur, exiting a great startup, running a venture capital, making a few million, becoming US citizen, having a great home etc. These goals are not bad. Just that they cost more, for the same returns (satisfaction). You are more successful when your happiness doesn't cost you a life-time running around or some herculean effort.
- snarf21 2y agoIt is all about purpose and hope and expectations. It is why 90% of the satisfaction of a vacation is from the planning. We highly underestimate the mental health benefits of a hobby. They are also a great place to make friends and connect with others, especially as we get older. People deep in a hobby will gladly spend hours helping n00bs and will talk your ear off about all the ins and outs. There are also lots of hobbies that have almost no barrier to entry, just the willingness to try something new. We'd all be a lot happier if we spent more time on a hobby and less time streaming shows.
- cmcconomy 2y agoyou're stating that vacation planning is 90% of the pleasure as a truism???
- klik99 2y agoYeah that indicates more about posters personality, especially since it’s phrased as a universal. I’m more of a wing-it-but-have-a-backup-list kind of vacationer, planning is literally the least fun part for me. edit the rest of what he says resonates with me though
- numpad0 2y agoThese guys aren't privileged ruling class elites. They have no skills and paths and connections needed to see successes in such ventures. I actually think that is how China now has "football fields full of engineers", the competitive environment in Far East regions had been so over the top that qualities that should make somebody cream of the crop globally only float them halfway down the mug locally.
- admp 2y agoIf you’re fascinated by or interested in Japanese carpentry and happen to be in London before July, go and visit https://www.japanhouselondon.uk/whats-on/the-craft-of-carpentry-drawing-life-from-japans-forests/ https://www.japanhouselondon.uk/whats-on/the-craft-of-carpen.... It’s free and quite excellent.
- whalesalad 2y agoIt's remarkable how often I get pushed some form of content in my YT weekend algo, and then at the beginning of the week the same thing is on the top of HN. We are all in the same funnel.
- jeromenerf 2y agoPlanning wood, expect during kezuroukai, is annoying because knots are hard and deform the thin edge; most often still wet enough to oxydize the thin edge; finally full of abrasive silicium to abrade the thin edge. Meanwhile, lake erie toolworks is creating powder metallurgy CPM magnacut blades for western style planes, which seemingly never gets dull because of corrosion resistance, wear resistance and hardness.
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- Double_a_92 2y agoIs the skill for this competition in honing the tool, or in using it? Or a combination of both?
- tcholewik 2y agoBlade sharpness is a huge factor in performance but thats still just 50% of tool prep; once you start working you also need to maintains correct pressure, tool much and tour shaving will be to thick, too little and you atop cutting.