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I honestly would not be surprised if we ended up returning to a more fragmented EU, it's becoming quite a mess. Personally, I absolutely love if we could have

I honestly would not be surprised if we ended up returning to a more fragmented EU, it's becoming quite a mess. Personally, I absolutely love if we could have something looser, like a "Common European Area": freedom to travel, freedom to study, freedom to live, freedom to work. That's it. No EC/EP or anything like that.

izacus 1y ago
Why would you want to destroy your economy and quality of life like that?
fifilura 1y ago
This is what the orange guy dreams about as well. That he can strike individual "deals" with each small country so he can win on size like a sumo wrestler against a featherweight wrestler. It is pretty obvious that the common foreign policy is more important than ever. Sadly it is too late to include Canada, South Korea, Australia and Japan into that umbrella, at least this time around. And people here in Sweden are talking about that next we will need to give up our currency and use the Euro since that is what T will weaponize next, going after the smaller currencies.
matthewmacleod 1y ago
This was something that came up during Brexit of course but it seems difficult when you start getting into the details. The idea is that (completely reasonably) if you have a “single market” as you describe, you need harmonised regulation so everybody is on a level playing field; once you have done that then you need some form of democratic governance. Everyone basically ends up designing the EU when they do this.
- angra_mainyu 1y ago
  >The idea is that (completely reasonably) if you have a “single market” as you describe I didn't really describe this though. Had I mentioned currencies or trade agreements you might have more of a point. It's more like automatic work permits for Europeans within Europe, unlimited stays, ease of access to renting + purchasing housing.

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I honestly would not be surprised if we ended up returning to a more fragmented EU, it's becoming quite a mess. Personally, I absolutely love if we could have

by angra_mainyu 1y ago

izacus 1y ago
Why would you want to destroy your economy and quality of life like that?
fifilura 1y ago
This is what the orange guy dreams about as well. That he can strike individual "deals" with each small country so he can win on size like a sumo wrestler against a featherweight wrestler. It is pretty obvious that the common foreign policy is more important than ever. Sadly it is too late to include Canada, South Korea, Australia and Japan into that umbrella, at least this time around. And people here in Sweden are talking about that next we will need to give up our currency and use the Euro since that is what T will weaponize next, going after the smaller currencies.
matthewmacleod 1y ago
This was something that came up during Brexit of course but it seems difficult when you start getting into the details. The idea is that (completely reasonably) if you have a “single market” as you describe, you need harmonised regulation so everybody is on a level playing field; once you have done that then you need some form of democratic governance. Everyone basically ends up designing the EU when they do this.
- angra_mainyu 1y ago
  >The idea is that (completely reasonably) if you have a “single market” as you describe I didn't really describe this though. Had I mentioned currencies or trade agreements you might have more of a point. It's more like automatic work permits for Europeans within Europe, unlimited stays, ease of access to renting + purchasing housing.