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I was seriously considering a cybertruck, but by launch (and directly after), it became clear that it was a lifestyle truck, not an actual utility vehicle In c

I was seriously considering a cybertruck, but by launch (and directly after), it became clear that it was a lifestyle truck, not an actual utility vehicle In case you’re wondering, motorcycles are a hobby of mine, and the most common negative review I’ve heard is that the gate weight is just low enough that two people trying to get a big bike in, occasionally, can do many thousands of dollars of damage

asadotzler 2y ago
Right, because it's not actually a real truck. Real trucks are body on frame, a structure that doesn't distort under load. The CT is a unibody (monocoque) which can't support a real load from above or behind without deforming or snapping into pieces. It's a joke. It's a Hyundai Santa Fe that's been jacked up and weighed down with overthick steel panels that bring no value to the vehicle as a truck. It's a car pretending to be a pickup truck, which is fine for the suburban family that needs to grab a few bags of lawn fertilizer at Home Depot once a year, but it's not a real pickup truck and any comparison to even a 20 year old F-150 would be a crushing defeat in all normal pickup tasks.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  It does what it is rated for tho? I don't get the outrage?
  - mvdtnz 2y ago
    And it's rated for much less than similarly priced, similarly marketed utes.
    - dzhiurgis 2y ago
      I've just watched video[0] from Engineering Explained and it did pretty good job explaining why other manufacturers overrate their towing capacity. Basically they design their trucks for 95th percentile of towers. So it's fair to say truck is not hardcore tower. It doesn't mean it's not safe for regular tower. 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsnYvAU3kfA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsnYvAU3kfA
  - alamortsubite 2y ago
    I don't think it's outrage so much as revulsion.
  - karlgkk 2y ago
    Yes, and what it’s rated for isn’t enough for serious use Oh btw, there’s growing evidence that the hitch is significantly over-rated and may lead to some serious lawsuits. Nothing conclusive, but nobody’s ever shipped that kind of frame in a “serious” full load truck before for a reason.
- seunosewa 2y ago
  The suburban family would be repelled by the look.
- alamortsubite 2y ago
  This is entirely accurate, but there's a legion of "real" pickup trucks roaming North American roads that exist no less for show than the Tesla. At this point, they're probably the vast majority. In the EU no one would think twice about towing the aforementioned big bike with a cheap trailer attached to a Honda Civic. Coming from someone who's towed a lot of bikes, it's an arrangement that makes more sense than an American pickup on several levels.
  - karlgkk 2y ago
    The problem is that I sometimes carry two bikes (and once or twice, even 3). But yes point taken. I’ve certainly considered it, and might again in the future. Would love to get a tow hitch on a bmw
    - ethbr1 2y ago
      > Would love to get a tow hitch on a bmw Look for the neighbor always stick welding his 4x4 in the driveway. $40, a six-pack, and it's done.
      - karlgkk 2y ago
        i can do it myself, but there's no need. they also sell aftermarket hitches that attach to pre-designed mount points on the frame for most BMWs
- Marsymars 2y ago
  I like body on frame pickups as much as the next guy, but let’s not pretend that the overwhelming majority of pickup drivers in North America wouldn’t be better served by a Hyundai Santa Cruz, a Ford Maverick, or a Honda Ridgeline than whatever cowboy cosplay monstrosity they’re driving. (As the former owner of a body on frame Nissan hardbody and a Chevy S10 compact pickup, I just put down a deposit on a Maverick because I’ve got no interest in any of the modern-sized body on frame pickups, and there was too much overhead involved in importing a Mitsubishi Triton from Mexico to Canada and figuring out how to source parts.)
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asadotzler 2y ago

Right, because it's not actually a real truck. Real trucks are body on frame, a structure that doesn't distort under load. The CT is a unibody (monocoque) which can't support a real load from above or behind without deforming or snapping into pieces. It's a joke. It's a Hyundai Santa Fe that's been jacked up and weighed down with overthick steel panels that bring no value to the vehicle as a truck. It's a car pretending to be a pickup truck, which is fine for the suburban family that needs to grab a few bags of lawn fertilizer at Home Depot once a year, but it's not a real pickup truck and any comparison to even a 20 year old F-150 would be a crushing defeat in all normal pickup tasks.

dzhiurgis 2y ago
It does what it is rated for tho? I don't get the outrage?
- mvdtnz 2y ago
  And it's rated for much less than similarly priced, similarly marketed utes.
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    I've just watched video[0] from Engineering Explained and it did pretty good job explaining why other manufacturers overrate their towing capacity. Basically they design their trucks for 95th percentile of towers. So it's fair to say truck is not hardcore tower. It doesn't mean it's not safe for regular tower. 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsnYvAU3kfA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsnYvAU3kfA
- alamortsubite 2y ago
  I don't think it's outrage so much as revulsion.
- karlgkk 2y ago
  Yes, and what it’s rated for isn’t enough for serious use Oh btw, there’s growing evidence that the hitch is significantly over-rated and may lead to some serious lawsuits. Nothing conclusive, but nobody’s ever shipped that kind of frame in a “serious” full load truck before for a reason.
seunosewa 2y ago
The suburban family would be repelled by the look.
alamortsubite 2y ago
This is entirely accurate, but there's a legion of "real" pickup trucks roaming North American roads that exist no less for show than the Tesla. At this point, they're probably the vast majority. In the EU no one would think twice about towing the aforementioned big bike with a cheap trailer attached to a Honda Civic. Coming from someone who's towed a lot of bikes, it's an arrangement that makes more sense than an American pickup on several levels.
- karlgkk 2y ago
  The problem is that I sometimes carry two bikes (and once or twice, even 3). But yes point taken. I’ve certainly considered it, and might again in the future. Would love to get a tow hitch on a bmw
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    > Would love to get a tow hitch on a bmw Look for the neighbor always stick welding his 4x4 in the driveway. $40, a six-pack, and it's done.
    - karlgkk 2y ago
      i can do it myself, but there's no need. they also sell aftermarket hitches that attach to pre-designed mount points on the frame for most BMWs
Marsymars 2y ago
I like body on frame pickups as much as the next guy, but let’s not pretend that the overwhelming majority of pickup drivers in North America wouldn’t be better served by a Hyundai Santa Cruz, a Ford Maverick, or a Honda Ridgeline than whatever cowboy cosplay monstrosity they’re driving. (As the former owner of a body on frame Nissan hardbody and a Chevy S10 compact pickup, I just put down a deposit on a Maverick because I’ve got no interest in any of the modern-sized body on frame pickups, and there was too much overhead involved in importing a Mitsubishi Triton from Mexico to Canada and figuring out how to source parts.)

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