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Well, can't read the article cos' there's a soccer match right now, and the head of the Spanish league, along with Telefonica, have decided that anyone behind C

Well, can't read the article cos' there's a soccer match right now, and the head of the Spanish league, along with Telefonica, have decided that anyone behind Cloudflare and some other CDNs and hosts are guilty of pirating the TV signal. No reading this afternoon. https://imgur.com/a/DCiE4J0 https://imgur.com/a/DCiE4J0

theandrewbailey 2y ago
Yeah, I saw an article about that yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43666033 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43666033
- tecleandor 2y ago
  He appeared on and interview a couple weeks ago saying the cuts were only affecting pirates and freaks. So... Edit: by "he" I mean Javier Tebas.
encom 2y ago
I know this isn't their fault, but this perfectly illustrates why having CloudFlare gatekeep the internet wasn't great idea.
- kmeisthax 2y ago
  Half of CloudFlare's MO is just "if we gatekeep the entire Internet, then nobody will be able to censor a single site, because then they'll be censoring the entire Internet". Problem with that is that there's perfectly valid legal reasons to censor individual websites and people will absolutely block all of CloudFlare to get them to go away. In this case, the corpofascist copyright owners that happen to own Spain's legislature decided "well, then we'll have to have no Internet when there's a soccer game, then". But there's plenty of other legal or moral reasons to block a website, as much as the EFF would disagree. At the very least, CloudFlare has a sterling track record with providing infrastructure to cybercriminals. Every DDoS service puts their sales pages on CloudFlare, because when you happen to have a low-orbit ion cannon[0], the easiest thing to use it on is other vendors of low-orbit ion cannons. Same with malware, because it's very easy to get your malware on a CloudFlare server and a pain in the ass for antimalware tools to block it. [0] LOIC is a "consumer grade" DDoS tool used predominantly by trolls and activists on 4chan in the late 2000s. Probably not what the DDoS vendors are using.
  - newsclues 2y ago
    Don’t need cloudflare to pirate content, if people nerf the internet out of fear of piracy, the pirates need to make that content so available to all for free with a superior UI/UX so that the censors give up and cease.
ClearAndPresent 2y ago
Ironically, I can't see your image because Imgur assumes my VPN is malicious and rejects traffic from it. (Instead of saying this, it lies about being over capacity. This situation mysteriously resolves when I disable the VPN.) https://ibb.co/F4nG3LYL https://ibb.co/F4nG3LYL
- VoidWhisperer 2y ago
  403 would also be a weird error code for over capacity - 503 would be the correct error code.. The fact that it returns 403 as the error code is more proof that it isn't just 'service being over capacity'.

theandrewbailey 2y ago

Yeah, I saw an article about that yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43666033 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43666033

tecleandor 2y ago
He appeared on and interview a couple weeks ago saying the cuts were only affecting pirates and freaks. So... Edit: by "he" I mean Javier Tebas.

encom 2y ago

I know this isn't their fault, but this perfectly illustrates why having CloudFlare gatekeep the internet wasn't great idea.

kmeisthax 2y ago
Half of CloudFlare's MO is just "if we gatekeep the entire Internet, then nobody will be able to censor a single site, because then they'll be censoring the entire Internet". Problem with that is that there's perfectly valid legal reasons to censor individual websites and people will absolutely block all of CloudFlare to get them to go away. In this case, the corpofascist copyright owners that happen to own Spain's legislature decided "well, then we'll have to have no Internet when there's a soccer game, then". But there's plenty of other legal or moral reasons to block a website, as much as the EFF would disagree. At the very least, CloudFlare has a sterling track record with providing infrastructure to cybercriminals. Every DDoS service puts their sales pages on CloudFlare, because when you happen to have a low-orbit ion cannon[0], the easiest thing to use it on is other vendors of low-orbit ion cannons. Same with malware, because it's very easy to get your malware on a CloudFlare server and a pain in the ass for antimalware tools to block it. [0] LOIC is a "consumer grade" DDoS tool used predominantly by trolls and activists on 4chan in the late 2000s. Probably not what the DDoS vendors are using.
- newsclues 2y ago
  Don’t need cloudflare to pirate content, if people nerf the internet out of fear of piracy, the pirates need to make that content so available to all for free with a superior UI/UX so that the censors give up and cease.

ClearAndPresent 2y ago

Ironically, I can't see your image because Imgur assumes my VPN is malicious and rejects traffic from it. (Instead of saying this, it lies about being over capacity. This situation mysteriously resolves when I disable the VPN.) https://ibb.co/F4nG3LYL https://ibb.co/F4nG3LYL

VoidWhisperer 2y ago
403 would also be a weird error code for over capacity - 503 would be the correct error code.. The fact that it returns 403 as the error code is more proof that it isn't just 'service being over capacity'.