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I do want to point out that never-married by looking at legal paperwork is a blunt instrument. There are reasons, especially for dual high earners, to not get

I do want to point out that never-married by looking at legal paperwork is a blunt instrument. There are reasons, especially for dual high earners, to not get a marriage license. Examples of tax-related things that don’t double when married; -Income tax brackets above about $200k -SALT cap -Mortgage interest deduction -HSA contributions (if have children) -Dependent care FSA contributions

Spooky23 2y ago
Yeah this sort of analysis really requires survey data. As a widowed male, i gained an appreciation of the complexity of things. I’m not dating someone young enough to be my daughter, so the pool of available women consists of divorcees, widows, long-term single and various flavors of married and dating. Divorced people and widows have strong incentives, as spousal support and survivors benefits for children are contingent on not being re-married. Also, if you’re not planning to have children with a partner and have money that’s worth litigating over, (or property that was your late spouse that should go to a child) marriage complicates that.
mindslight 2y ago
- Collapsing two legal entities into effectively one. In the days of the healthcare cartel and other hyperfinancialized shakedowns, this seems like a poor idea. Corpos hire armies of lawyers to create new legal entities so their owners can escape liability. It seems foolish to sign a piece of paper that undermines your main access to that dynamic.
- kmeisthax 2y ago
  The Sybil attack reigns supreme!
toshinoriyagi 2y ago
Isn't this all solved by just filing separately, not jointly?
- oidar 2y ago
  Nope. It's a reason some might note get married.
- guitarsteve 2y ago
  No, for taxes, married filing separately is a different category than single. Married filing separately results in a higher tax bill than married filing jointly for most couples.
- delecti 2y ago
  Married filed separately effectively locks you out of a lot of benefits when compared to unmarried filing single, or married filing jointly.
- ultrasaurus 2y ago
  There are places in the tax code where Single != Married Filing Separately. One pertinent example is that Washington State's capital gains tax applies after $270k per single person, per married couple filing jointly OR split in half for married filing separately. Which could be a theoretical $18.9k/year difference in taxes.
  - lostmsu 2y ago
    Yeah, that particular deduction reeks of some big brain energy. My family is going to be outta here by the end of the year, hopefully.
trollbridge 2y ago
Yep. I’d be eligible for more government benefits and pay lower taxes if I weren’t married. It would also be easier to set up various aspects of a business such as officers, etc since we would not be considered “related”.

Spooky23 2y ago

Yeah this sort of analysis really requires survey data. As a widowed male, i gained an appreciation of the complexity of things. I’m not dating someone young enough to be my daughter, so the pool of available women consists of divorcees, widows, long-term single and various flavors of married and dating. Divorced people and widows have strong incentives, as spousal support and survivors benefits for children are contingent on not being re-married. Also, if you’re not planning to have children with a partner and have money that’s worth litigating over, (or property that was your late spouse that should go to a child) marriage complicates that.

mindslight 2y ago

- Collapsing two legal entities into effectively one. In the days of the healthcare cartel and other hyperfinancialized shakedowns, this seems like a poor idea. Corpos hire armies of lawyers to create new legal entities so their owners can escape liability. It seems foolish to sign a piece of paper that undermines your main access to that dynamic.

kmeisthax 2y ago
The Sybil attack reigns supreme!

toshinoriyagi 2y ago

Isn't this all solved by just filing separately, not jointly?

oidar 2y ago
Nope. It's a reason some might note get married.
guitarsteve 2y ago
No, for taxes, married filing separately is a different category than single. Married filing separately results in a higher tax bill than married filing jointly for most couples.
delecti 2y ago
Married filed separately effectively locks you out of a lot of benefits when compared to unmarried filing single, or married filing jointly.
ultrasaurus 2y ago
There are places in the tax code where Single != Married Filing Separately. One pertinent example is that Washington State's capital gains tax applies after $270k per single person, per married couple filing jointly OR split in half for married filing separately. Which could be a theoretical $18.9k/year difference in taxes.
- lostmsu 2y ago
  Yeah, that particular deduction reeks of some big brain energy. My family is going to be outta here by the end of the year, hopefully.

trollbridge 2y ago

Yep. I’d be eligible for more government benefits and pay lower taxes if I weren’t married. It would also be easier to set up various aspects of a business such as officers, etc since we would not be considered “related”.