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How many of these never-married men are in a relationship? Unmarried != single. Stats on the number of singles who have never been in a relationship would be fa

• galleywest200 2y ago
  The article mentions that widows impact the count for single women, so yes I think it is speaking about single people who have never been married, even if they did have a relationship of some kind in the past.
• jimbob45 2y ago
  Anecdotal but my friends don’t try at all anymore or they don’t put in any effort and pretend that’s not their problem (read: you need to shower daily). It’s stupid because the combination of singles mixers, tinder, and community events make it very easy to find a partner (keeping them is another story) but nobody wants to try. I’m of the opinion that porn has sapped their will to find women, even though it’s very possible to have a healthy relationship with porn and men have indeed had healthy relationships with porn throughout recorded history.
  • parpfish 2y ago
    Or maybe the porn gives them everything they need from a relationship and we’re seeing that there’s a larger segment that genuinely doesn’t need/want to be in a relationship.
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    • rileymat2 2y ago
      This boggles my mind, porn only takes the place of a very small part of a healthy relationship.
      • linotype 2y ago
        For you or me maybe, but what if some people just don’t want to be in a relationship but still want that particular need (sexual gratification) to be met?
        • rileymat2 2y ago
          Yes, the discounting of other aspects is my mental block. I understand that everyone has different desires, but it is hard for me to, personally, empathize with. Hence the mind boggling.
          • linotype 2y ago
            It was for me as well, but the more I’ve worked in tech, the more men I’ve met that simply aren’t capable of a relationship.
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      • aacid 2y ago
        I have currently some relationship issues so I might be biased but I keep asking myself what will I miss if not in relationship except sex that cannot be supplemented with family or friends… I've yet to find the answer.
        • parpfish 2y ago
  • xingped 2y ago
    > It’s stupid because the combination of singles mixers, tinder, and community events make it very easy to find a partner Tell me you haven't tried to date in a decade without telling me. Dating is more in the ditches than it has ever been.
    • fwip 2y ago
      I feel like most people would tell you that it's harder to date than it used to be, because most people are older than they used to be. That is, you're generally "less attractive" (in a median sort of way), as well as having stronger opinions about who/what you like. So your standards have come up, and your general desirability has gone down - so of course dating is going to feel more like a slog than when there were promising potential partners were around every corner.
      • FeloniousHam 2y ago
        Data point of one: I'm older, and my experience with the apps was more than mostly positive. I hadn't dated in years, and with the exception of a couple clunkers, all my dates were fun and friendly. In every match, there was a lot of texting, and I put in a lot of effort. Nobody was a swimsuit model, but I'm not either. I might be I've crossed the threshold where looks are less important than personality (looks are still important!). Everyone I dated mentioned that their experience with the apps mostly sucked though.
  • evantbyrne 2y ago
    It is a natural human tendency to shift blame to external boogeymen, but to speak frankly, I think there's something deeper going on with the loneliness epidemic than nudey videos on the internet. A seemingly large chunk of both sexes have major personality issues that prevent them from getting along with each other.
    • mattgreenrocks 2y ago
      > A large chunk of both sexes have major personality issues that prevent them from getting along with one another This sounds like the inverse of the white, “every generation thinks they invented sex.” I say that because I doubt people have changed that much.
      • evantbyrne 2y ago
        Hah yeah I don't necessarily believe it's all a generational thing, because I see it in the older folks as well. And every generation has had its masculinity grifters. This one is obsessed with porn. The biggest generational differences I've noticed are that women seem to need men less, people are losing shape at earlier ages, and a lot of people have become very outspoken about distrusting members of the other sex. Just from those factors I think it would be natural to see increased competition for the people who have everything together.
• parpfish 2y ago
  The label “single” is weird. In most cases it just means “not in a relationship” and doesn’t tell you about marital status. But if you’re in specifically asking about marriage, it can mean unwed (and I’m sure it gets even trickier for poly relationships). If a flirty stranger approaches and asks “are you single”, you’d say no “no, I’m in a relationship” If you’re filling out a form at the doctor office and it asks “marital status”, you’d put “single”.
  • nothercastle 2y ago
    Living with a partner should narrow it down