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What’s impressive about this, and promising about BYD in general, is that they revealed an actual product weeks after revealing the technology. This is very Ap

What’s impressive about this, and promising about BYD in general, is that they revealed an actual product weeks after revealing the technology. This is very Apple at its peak’esque. Too many companies, especially in the EV space (Tesla is awful at this) will announce tech years in advance and often not even deliver. When we first heard about this 5 min charger a few months ago I fully expected it to be available in a car at least years from now if ever.

rasz 1y ago
>Too many companies, especially in the EV space (Tesla is awful at this) will announce tech years in advance and often not even deliver. Isnt it deliberate to generate Osbourne effect? For example Toyota with its "solid state really coming in soon" while company has no EV plans whatsoever.
- tim333 1y ago
  Toyota has several evs such as the bZ4X.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 1y ago
    It's true that Toyota has at least 1 semi-successful, moderately well reviewed EV, the bZ4X. It's not a "compliance car", trust Toyota, honest!. It's also true that Toyota lags others on it's line-up of EVs, especially considering their early leadership on hybrids such as the Prius. Some would even say that Toyota don't want to push EVs too hard, lest they eat into their business with hybrids. It's also also true that press releases saying "solid state really coming in soon" are a thing that Toyota does a lot. Actual shipping products with those solid state batteries, not so much. The bZ4X does not have a solid state battery.
    - tim333 1y ago
      I think Toyota never really believed in EVs and said as much. But I assume if they say they have a solid state battery on the way it'll turn up some time. I've owned three Toyotas and always found them quite reliable, both the cars and the company.
    - Marsymars 1y ago
      > It's also true that Toyota lags others on it's line-up of EVs They’ve got a great hybrid lineup though. I suspect that if you broke down car manufacturers by “average MPG/MPGe of all the miles driven by 2025 models sold” that Toyota would be looking pretty good against all but the EV-only manufacturers. There’s a bigger environmental gain from converting a Tundra driver to a Rav4 Prime driver than there is from converting a Prius driver to a bZ4X driver.

rasz 1y ago

>Too many companies, especially in the EV space (Tesla is awful at this) will announce tech years in advance and often not even deliver. Isnt it deliberate to generate Osbourne effect? For example Toyota with its "solid state really coming in soon" while company has no EV plans whatsoever.

tim333 1y ago
Toyota has several evs such as the bZ4X.
- SideburnsOfDoom 1y ago
  It's true that Toyota has at least 1 semi-successful, moderately well reviewed EV, the bZ4X. It's not a "compliance car", trust Toyota, honest!. It's also true that Toyota lags others on it's line-up of EVs, especially considering their early leadership on hybrids such as the Prius. Some would even say that Toyota don't want to push EVs too hard, lest they eat into their business with hybrids. It's also also true that press releases saying "solid state really coming in soon" are a thing that Toyota does a lot. Actual shipping products with those solid state batteries, not so much. The bZ4X does not have a solid state battery.
  - tim333 1y ago
    I think Toyota never really believed in EVs and said as much. But I assume if they say they have a solid state battery on the way it'll turn up some time. I've owned three Toyotas and always found them quite reliable, both the cars and the company.
  - Marsymars 1y ago
    > It's also true that Toyota lags others on it's line-up of EVs They’ve got a great hybrid lineup though. I suspect that if you broke down car manufacturers by “average MPG/MPGe of all the miles driven by 2025 models sold” that Toyota would be looking pretty good against all but the EV-only manufacturers. There’s a bigger environmental gain from converting a Tundra driver to a Rav4 Prime driver than there is from converting a Prius driver to a bZ4X driver.