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Barely even mentions the noise. Cities aren't loud but cars are. Paris 2025 vs 1995 soundscapes very different.

1over137 2y ago
Yes, this was very noticeable during covid lockdowns too.
altairprime 2y ago
I believe https://carto.bruitparif.fr/ https://carto.bruitparif.fr/ represents 2022 levels, but my French is very rusty and I suspect that historical data review is more readily available to a speaker of it. Perhaps that site has lockdown data as a layer somewhere?
- williamdclt 2y ago
  Yep, it says this is a map of noise levels, representing the Lden noise indicator over a full day
paulgb 2y ago
Manhattan recently got congestion pricing and it’s noticeably more enjoyable because of this, even indoors.
- kkkqkqkqkqlqlql 2y ago
  Didn't Trump killed it? https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/19/business/trump-kills-congestion-pricing-nyc/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/19/business/trump-kills-congesti...
sergiotapia 2y ago
There's this guy on YouTube that travelled to india and one thing stood out to me was the non-stop honking of cars and bikes. Just endless forever. What a nightmare! I wonder what that does to a population. How does anyone think?? https://youtu.be/IFUIdcrgW6M?si=o6LkXK4MyS-PL7m-&t=661 https://youtu.be/IFUIdcrgW6M?si=o6LkXK4MyS-PL7m-&t=661
- netsharc 2y ago
  I think there's a few studies. E.g. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11356-024-33973-9 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11356-024-33973-9 I used to live next to a big intersection with a red light, and the cars accelerating away when it goes green was annoying. I now live at the end of a cul-de-sac with a cemetary behind me. So much more peaceful!
carstenhag 2y ago
Of course, noise on sidewalks is important and annoying. But to a German who is used to good (sealed) German windows, French and Spanish cities, just to name some, are just a pain. Be it in hotel rooms or regular homes, almost nowhere the windows are sealed. Just pressing gently on the window (more pressure on the sealing) reduces the moped noises by 30-50%.
- jeffbee 2y ago
  [cries in American]
dluan 2y ago
This it the most immediate and obvious change in any Chinese city now, they are practically silent. All electric cars means you can actually have a conversation with someone while walking through crowded downtown areas, and you never realize how much of a difference it makes until you experience it.
Agingcoder 2y ago
Agreed. The difference is stunning.

Yes, this was very noticeable during covid lockdowns too.

I believe https://carto.bruitparif.fr/ https://carto.bruitparif.fr/ represents 2022 levels, but my French is very rusty and I suspect that historical data review is more readily available to a speaker of it. Perhaps that site has lockdown data as a layer somewhere?

williamdclt 2y ago
Yep, it says this is a map of noise levels, representing the Lden noise indicator over a full day

paulgb 2y ago

Manhattan recently got congestion pricing and it’s noticeably more enjoyable because of this, even indoors.

kkkqkqkqkqlqlql 2y ago
Didn't Trump killed it? https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/19/business/trump-kills-congestion-pricing-nyc/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/19/business/trump-kills-congesti...

sergiotapia 2y ago

There's this guy on YouTube that travelled to india and one thing stood out to me was the non-stop honking of cars and bikes. Just endless forever. What a nightmare! I wonder what that does to a population. How does anyone think?? https://youtu.be/IFUIdcrgW6M?si=o6LkXK4MyS-PL7m-&t=661 https://youtu.be/IFUIdcrgW6M?si=o6LkXK4MyS-PL7m-&t=661

netsharc 2y ago
I think there's a few studies. E.g. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11356-024-33973-9 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11356-024-33973-9 I used to live next to a big intersection with a red light, and the cars accelerating away when it goes green was annoying. I now live at the end of a cul-de-sac with a cemetary behind me. So much more peaceful!

carstenhag 2y ago

Of course, noise on sidewalks is important and annoying. But to a German who is used to good (sealed) German windows, French and Spanish cities, just to name some, are just a pain. Be it in hotel rooms or regular homes, almost nowhere the windows are sealed. Just pressing gently on the window (more pressure on the sealing) reduces the moped noises by 30-50%.

jeffbee 2y ago
[cries in American]

dluan 2y ago

This it the most immediate and obvious change in any Chinese city now, they are practically silent. All electric cars means you can actually have a conversation with someone while walking through crowded downtown areas, and you never realize how much of a difference it makes until you experience it.

Agingcoder 2y ago

Agreed. The difference is stunning.