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Then you are stuck on whatever passes the gates. It is shitloads of work to maintain. Getting new package from 0 to any Linux distribution is close to imposs

by ozim 2y ago

Then you are stuck on whatever passes the gates. It is shitloads of work to maintain. Getting new package from 0 to any Linux distribution is close to impossible. Debian sucks as no one gets on top of reviewing and testing. „Can we just” is not just there is loads of work to be done to curate packages no one is willing to pay for it. There is so far no model that works where you can have up to date cutting edge stuff reviewed. So you are stuck with 5 year old crap because it was reviewed.

tasuki 2y ago
So many good packages made it into Debian relatively recently! Eg: fzf, fd-find, ripgrep, jq, exa, nvim, ...
- mvdtnz 2y ago
  I was excited to see you mention fzf in Debian so I just installed it and it's an ancient version that doesn't support shell integration. Not a great look.
  - pabs3 2y ago
    fzf 0.60.3-1 from March 3rd is the latest in Debian, 0.61.1 from April 4 the latest upstream, so Debian is not exactly ancient. I guess you are using stable Debian? That doesn't get newer upstream releases, if you want the latest Debian fzf you can just install the build from unstable, which should work fine since Go does static linking, and there are often backports for when unstable packages can't be installed on stable. https://github.com/junegunn/fzf/tags https://github.com/junegunn/fzf/tags https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fzf https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fzf
    - mvdtnz 2y ago
      I don't know what to tell you - I just typed "sudo apt install fzf" and got 0.48. Yes, I'm using stable like most people.
  - tasuki 2y ago
    I'm using Debian stable and its fzf. What do you mean by "doesn't support shell integration"? I use it... in my shell? Using various shortcuts? Ctrl+T to select file? Alt+C to change dir? Ctrl+R to search history? I use this for my shell integration: function maybe_source { [ -f "$1" ] && source "$1" } maybe_source /usr/share/doc/fzf/examples/key-bindings.zsh maybe_source /usr/share/doc/fzf/examples/completion.zsh

by ozim 2y ago

tasuki 2y ago

So many good packages made it into Debian relatively recently! Eg: fzf, fd-find, ripgrep, jq, exa, nvim, ...

mvdtnz 2y ago
I was excited to see you mention fzf in Debian so I just installed it and it's an ancient version that doesn't support shell integration. Not a great look.
- pabs3 2y ago
  fzf 0.60.3-1 from March 3rd is the latest in Debian, 0.61.1 from April 4 the latest upstream, so Debian is not exactly ancient. I guess you are using stable Debian? That doesn't get newer upstream releases, if you want the latest Debian fzf you can just install the build from unstable, which should work fine since Go does static linking, and there are often backports for when unstable packages can't be installed on stable. https://github.com/junegunn/fzf/tags https://github.com/junegunn/fzf/tags https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fzf https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fzf
  - mvdtnz 2y ago
    I don't know what to tell you - I just typed "sudo apt install fzf" and got 0.48. Yes, I'm using stable like most people.
- tasuki 2y ago
  I'm using Debian stable and its fzf. What do you mean by "doesn't support shell integration"? I use it... in my shell? Using various shortcuts? Ctrl+T to select file? Alt+C to change dir? Ctrl+R to search history? I use this for my shell integration: function maybe_source { [ -f "$1" ] && source "$1" } maybe_source /usr/share/doc/fzf/examples/key-bindings.zsh maybe_source /usr/share/doc/fzf/examples/completion.zsh