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Agreed, the Cinnamon desktop is the most unsurprising interface. The dual ssd boot option for OS is also nice, as some games/applications in Win11 are inescapa

Agreed, the Cinnamon desktop is the most unsurprising interface. The dual ssd boot option for OS is also nice, as some games/applications in Win11 are inescapable. However, for 99.8% of most day to day OS needs the Ubuntu repo desktop works fine (if you purchased a printer/webcam knowing it is fully supported etc.) =3

neilv 2y ago
Yeah, I was recently deciding which desktop option to use for a Debian Live variant that needs to be straightforward for anyone who boots it. I tried each option (in VMs), and decided to go with Cinnamon. So, if someone wants a Linux to start with, installing Debian Stable, and selecting the Cinnamon desktop in the installer, is one great first option. (The Debian default desktop is based on Gnome3, which does a few weird and annoying things. Fortunately, Gnome3 inspired alternatives, like Cinnamon.)
Terr_ 2y ago
> The dual ssd boot option for OS is also nice, as some games/applications in Win11 are inescapable. Similar situation, I'm thinking I'll have a two bootable drives and then a third data-only drive so that I can share some stuff between them. (Hey, I got a desktop for a reason, let's use that space!) AFAICT this should be safe-enough provided I avoid a special case where Windows has hibernated without unmounting an NTFS drive cleanly and I try to mount it on the Linux side. Not sure how much work I want to put into the different flavors of TPM/secure-boot-y things. Less worried about evil-maid attacks as opposed to preventing a burglar rifle through my digital life.
- Joel_Mckay 2y ago
  sshfs works on both windows (winfsp, sshfs-win, sshfs-win-manager) and linux... Or in Win shell try: winget install -h -e --id "WinFsp.WinFsp" && winget install -h -e --id "SSHFS-Win.SSHFS-Win" A backup ssh server running F2FS on disk-encrypt for /home is good practice. =3
  - Terr_ 2y ago
    In this case sshd won't be running, because it's just one machine shutting down the Linux environment entirely to dual-boot to Windows.
    - Joel_Mckay 2y ago
      Could always run Termux/Termux:Boot + pyamsoft/tetherfi on a $10 old phone if you have no other sshd server options. There is always a better way, but integrated backups are important. =3

neilv 2y ago

Yeah, I was recently deciding which desktop option to use for a Debian Live variant that needs to be straightforward for anyone who boots it. I tried each option (in VMs), and decided to go with Cinnamon. So, if someone wants a Linux to start with, installing Debian Stable, and selecting the Cinnamon desktop in the installer, is one great first option. (The Debian default desktop is based on Gnome3, which does a few weird and annoying things. Fortunately, Gnome3 inspired alternatives, like Cinnamon.)

Terr_ 2y ago

> The dual ssd boot option for OS is also nice, as some games/applications in Win11 are inescapable. Similar situation, I'm thinking I'll have a two bootable drives and then a third data-only drive so that I can share some stuff between them. (Hey, I got a desktop for a reason, let's use that space!) AFAICT this should be safe-enough provided I avoid a special case where Windows has hibernated without unmounting an NTFS drive cleanly and I try to mount it on the Linux side. Not sure how much work I want to put into the different flavors of TPM/secure-boot-y things. Less worried about evil-maid attacks as opposed to preventing a burglar rifle through my digital life.

Joel_Mckay 2y ago
sshfs works on both windows (winfsp, sshfs-win, sshfs-win-manager) and linux... Or in Win shell try: winget install -h -e --id "WinFsp.WinFsp" && winget install -h -e --id "SSHFS-Win.SSHFS-Win" A backup ssh server running F2FS on disk-encrypt for /home is good practice. =3
- Terr_ 2y ago
  In this case sshd won't be running, because it's just one machine shutting down the Linux environment entirely to dual-boot to Windows.
  - Joel_Mckay 2y ago
    Could always run Termux/Termux:Boot + pyamsoft/tetherfi on a $10 old phone if you have no other sshd server options. There is always a better way, but integrated backups are important. =3