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It isn't when considering Google's brand has (long) lost trust in how it hanles data. This is especially true with larger companies, F500 type brands, who tend

It isn't when considering Google's brand has (long) lost trust in how it hanles data. This is especially true with larger companies, F500 type brands, who tend to avoid Google for infra as do governments.

rusk 2y ago
Tell that to the bank I work for that just switched to GCP
decimalenough 2y ago
F500/government are conservative and tend to stick with the vendors they know, which is why Azure has gained so much traction despite being worse than AWS & GCP pretty much across the board. Trust in handling data doesn't really come into this; if anything Google has a very strong reputation for security.
- js4ever 2y ago
  Tell that to UniSuper: https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/google-cloud-accidentally-deletes-125-billion-australian-pension-fund-124051800606_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/google-cloud-ac...
  - decimalenough 2y ago
    That was a billing fuckup that had nothing to do with security.
- re-thc 2y ago
  > F500/government are conservative and tend to stick with the vendors they know, which is why Azure has gained so much traction Outcome is the same, but being "conservative" isn't the real reason. Adding a vendor requires compliance work, process, finance etc that it's just effort. 99% of medium-large companies use Microsoft in some form so Azure can skip all of that to some extent.
  - Jensson 2y ago
    That is what he meant with conservative, ie trying to not do new things because it takes more work to change.
    - re-thc 2y ago
      > ie trying to not do new things because it takes more work to change That's not what the word conservative means, not by the dictionary or even politically. Conservative is the averse to change or to hold traditional values without logic. It's more like a type of fear. Even if the change was easy or have 0 cost, a conservative entity won't do it.
      - mejthemage 1y ago
        Why did you copy the dictionary's definition nearly perfectly, but then add "without logic"? In many cases, the conservative approach to a problem is prudent because the old ways work whereas there is more risk and uncertainty with new. That's not fear, it's wisdom.
- mdhb 2y ago
  Agreed, they are literal generations ahead of Microsoft in real life.
suddenexample 2y ago
Weird - it's hard to beat widespread online narratives, but as someone who worked at Google there's no company I'd trust more with the "handling" part of my data. There's no doubt that on device is always a more private option, but if you've decided to keep data in the cloud, then Google is probably one of the most secure options you could choose.
- GeneralMayhem 2y ago
  Same, as another former Googler. I worked on a team that had a relatively large amount of data access, and the amount of protection in place - technical and procedural, preventative and remedial - made me extremely comfortable giving Google basically all of my personal data, knowing that only the bare minimum would ever be looked at, and even then securely and in an anonymized or (usually) aggregated format.
  - adgjlsfhk1 2y ago
    as an outsider, Google is one of the companies I trust the most to prevent unintended leaks of my data, but also one of the ones I trust with my data least.
    - mdhb 2y ago
      I think there’s a bit of a mismatch here between data Google collects on me as a regular user which they can and due process in a million different ways in order to sell shit to you. This extends to AI unless you’re paying for it in which case it’s a very different ballgame. Then there is data that I put into a Google service like drive or cloud which genuinely is probably the single safest consumer option I know of in 2025.
    - Jensson 2y ago
      > but also one of the ones I trust with my data least. What thing have they done with user data that you feel will negatively affect you? As far as I know people just don't like that they have a lot of data, nobody every said they did bad stuff with that data.
VirusNewbie 2y ago
What F500 brands do you think avoid google? Most of the biggest ones are on GCP for ML at least.

rusk 2y ago

Tell that to the bank I work for that just switched to GCP

decimalenough 2y ago

F500/government are conservative and tend to stick with the vendors they know, which is why Azure has gained so much traction despite being worse than AWS & GCP pretty much across the board. Trust in handling data doesn't really come into this; if anything Google has a very strong reputation for security.

js4ever 2y ago
Tell that to UniSuper: https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/google-cloud-accidentally-deletes-125-billion-australian-pension-fund-124051800606_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/google-cloud-ac...
- decimalenough 2y ago
  That was a billing fuckup that had nothing to do with security.
re-thc 2y ago
> F500/government are conservative and tend to stick with the vendors they know, which is why Azure has gained so much traction Outcome is the same, but being "conservative" isn't the real reason. Adding a vendor requires compliance work, process, finance etc that it's just effort. 99% of medium-large companies use Microsoft in some form so Azure can skip all of that to some extent.
- Jensson 2y ago
  That is what he meant with conservative, ie trying to not do new things because it takes more work to change.
  - re-thc 2y ago
    > ie trying to not do new things because it takes more work to change That's not what the word conservative means, not by the dictionary or even politically. Conservative is the averse to change or to hold traditional values without logic. It's more like a type of fear. Even if the change was easy or have 0 cost, a conservative entity won't do it.
    - mejthemage 1y ago
      Why did you copy the dictionary's definition nearly perfectly, but then add "without logic"? In many cases, the conservative approach to a problem is prudent because the old ways work whereas there is more risk and uncertainty with new. That's not fear, it's wisdom.
mdhb 2y ago
Agreed, they are literal generations ahead of Microsoft in real life.

suddenexample 2y ago

Weird - it's hard to beat widespread online narratives, but as someone who worked at Google there's no company I'd trust more with the "handling" part of my data. There's no doubt that on device is always a more private option, but if you've decided to keep data in the cloud, then Google is probably one of the most secure options you could choose.

GeneralMayhem 2y ago
Same, as another former Googler. I worked on a team that had a relatively large amount of data access, and the amount of protection in place - technical and procedural, preventative and remedial - made me extremely comfortable giving Google basically all of my personal data, knowing that only the bare minimum would ever be looked at, and even then securely and in an anonymized or (usually) aggregated format.
- adgjlsfhk1 2y ago
  as an outsider, Google is one of the companies I trust the most to prevent unintended leaks of my data, but also one of the ones I trust with my data least.
  - mdhb 2y ago
    I think there’s a bit of a mismatch here between data Google collects on me as a regular user which they can and due process in a million different ways in order to sell shit to you. This extends to AI unless you’re paying for it in which case it’s a very different ballgame. Then there is data that I put into a Google service like drive or cloud which genuinely is probably the single safest consumer option I know of in 2025.
  - Jensson 2y ago
    > but also one of the ones I trust with my data least. What thing have they done with user data that you feel will negatively affect you? As far as I know people just don't like that they have a lot of data, nobody every said they did bad stuff with that data.

VirusNewbie 2y ago

What F500 brands do you think avoid google? Most of the biggest ones are on GCP for ML at least.