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The executive branch is merely going to ignore everything and then apply pardon powers to any sort of actual enforcement by the judiciary branch. But how can t
by AtlasBarfed 2y ago
The executive branch is merely going to ignore everything and then apply pardon powers to any sort of actual enforcement by the judiciary branch.
But how can this judiciary enforce anything, or the legislative for that matter?
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- mmooss 2y agoYou are believing the trash talk and allowing it to intimidate you. You are helping them by spreading it and legitimizing it. The executive branch is obeying the courts, with some pushback.
- Braxton1980 2y agoIs it an issue that the Executive is trash talking "they aren't going to obey the courts" ? You think that should be ignored?
- earnestinger 2y agoParent poster is not saying it should be ignored, parent poster is saying that people should not give-up and repeat “courts can be ignore”. Because if enough people chant that, then it will become a real possibility.
- Braxton1980 2y ago"You are believing the trash talk and allowing it to intimidate you. You are helping them by spreading it and legitimizing it." I take this as "Just ignore the rhetoric and threats from Republicans because they are empty and you're helping them spread the hate which gets more them support" >Because if enough people chant that, then it will become a real possibility. I'm not sure what you mean. Can you provide an example?
- mmooss 2y ago> "Just ignore the rhetoric and threats from Republicans No, you need to stop them. You need a plan for victory. Testifying that they have unstoppable power is an indulgence in cowardice. At halfime, do athletes say 'we can't possibly stop them!' It's just someone acting out their fears.
- Braxton1980 2y ago>Testifying that they have unstoppable power Who is doing that? The only way to stop them is to vote.
- mmooss 2y agoPolitics is every day, not once every 2 or 4 years. Also, what happens on those election days depends on what you do every other day.
- AtlasBarfed 2y agoOr are you dismissing overt signalling of fascism as "just owning the libs"? Are you just cherry picking communication you feel safe about and ignoring the huge glaring signs being flashed by dozens of appointees? Are you pretending Obama and bush established legal precedents for classifying citizens as enemy combatants for rendition, denial of due process, and murder by drone without trial? That we don't have a better than 1984 turnkey oppression and total.monitorinf infrastructure for any despot of sufficient motivation which this admin has amply stated affection towards? Language is important from leaders. So is consistency and some degree of integrity. Even disingenuous cowtowing to appearances and political norms constrains power and abuse.
- mmooss 2y agoI'm not sure what you are saying, but I'm not dismissing it, I'm saying we need to stop repeating their propaganda of terror and intimindation as if it's true. Be effective, not spread the poison of helplessness and fear.
- AtlasBarfed 2y agoWe need vigilance and nonpassivity. Propaganda is targeted to keep the majority passive while awful things are done by the government regime. Your argument seems to be "ignore them and they will go away". That's not how authoritarian takeovers are prevented.
- mmooss 2y ago> Your argument seems to be "ignore them and they will go away". I don't know why you are obsessed with saying that.