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The top of the power pyramid is not the deep state, it is the state. The top of the power pyramid is elected, or appointed by those who are elected. The deep s
by rufus_foreman 2y ago
The top of the power pyramid is not the deep state, it is the state. The top of the power pyramid is elected, or appointed by those who are elected.
The deep state refers to those who are not elected, who are not appointed by those who are elected, but who exercise power across political administrations without any check by voters.
- groby_b 2y agoSo, career civil servants? Yeah, heaven forfend we'd want to preserve any kind of institutional memory. Let's reappoint everybody every two years, that'll make things work well.
- ImJamal 2y agoHe only provided part of the definition. It also are people who are working against the goals of the executive branch, which they are a part of. If a civil servent is doing their job they wouldn't be part of the deep state.
- LaundroMat 2y agoA civil servant's job is not just to do what the executive branch asks them to do.
- ImJamal 2y agoI wasn't clear. I am talking about stuff like this https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nps-twitter-account-shut-down/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nps-twitter-account-shut-d... You should be doing your job not creating hatred towards your boss.
- 1659447091 2y ago> The deep state refers to those who are not elected, who are not appointed by those who are elected, but who exercise power across political administrations without any check by voters. So, you mean Musk is part of the Deep State?
- rufus_foreman 2y agoNo. Musk was appointed as a senior advisor by someone who was elected, and he has not exercised power across political administrations, so he would not meet my definition of deep state.
- 1659447091 2y agoGot it, I took "who exercise power across political administrations" to mean across the administration, as in multiple departments. However Musk was first made the head of a an agency without Senate confirmation or Congress approval for the new position bypassing the people he should have been appointed by for the position. His label only changed once the courts got involved
- ImJamal 2y agoHe only provided part of the definition. It also are people who are working against the goals of the executive branch, which they are a part of so Musk wouldn't be counted.