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FEMA slashes $300M in flooding, hurricane relief projects in Florida

29 points by howard941 2y ago

kylehotchkiss 2y ago
I'm really curious what home insurance will cost in Florida in a few years
- linotype 2y ago
  Or if it will be available at any cost.
- exabrial 2y ago
  Why should the rest of the population subsidize their choices?
  - slater 2y ago
    Because that's how insurance works, generally speaking...?
  - os2warpman 2y ago
    Everyone subsidizes everyone else. I subsidize roads for rural residents and lower rural wages and property values subside my food. That’s called being a nation state. If you claim that no one should live where there are hurricanes I will reply “or heat waves or blizzards or tornados or floods or inadequate arable land or inadequate water or forest fires or earthquakes” and we’ll be stuck in limbo unable to live anywhere.
    - EA-3167 2y ago
      I agree that we're all in it together, but we're not all subsidizing each other. Some states are highly dependent on Federal funds, others are not. CA for example contributes tens of billions more than it takes from the Federal government, enough to cover the entire state budget of one of the worst in that regard, Kentucky... more than 5X. https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700 https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the... I'm not sure why talking about the wisdom of living in a fire corridor or flood plain is somehow taboo, especially when the people paying are generally not the people living in those places. Even setting climate change aside it's an issue, as we see in places like coastal Florida, or communities in and around LA when fires come. Just sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "Everyone has to live somewhere" as though the country is full to capacity is really unhelpful.
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- rebolek 2y ago
  It would be interesting how would they explain higher rates and also not mention global warming which is obviously forbidden now.
- howard941 2y ago
  Well just this year it went up 13.9% for me, just below the threshold where it would have triggered a review. Also keep in mind that the industry is quite profitable. Large premiums are extracted and paid to controlled affiliates that aren't subject to the rules governing insurance companies. As a result of these shenanigans the industry cries poverty while making bank.
  - mandeepj 2y ago
    > Well just this year it went up 13.9% for me Any idea what it could be for LA or nearby residents? For Chicago, or IL residents in general - their home insurance just doubled. If you try to shop - the new quotes are at least tripled. Not sure why? There are no natural calamities here.
    - howard941 2y ago
      No idea. The insurance companies down here are very small and almost all of them are Florida-only.
    - peterbecich 2y ago
      Have you checked the FEMA Flood Map? https://www.fema.gov/flood-maps https://www.fema.gov/flood-maps A.f.a.i.k. it is part of the calculation.
quantified 2y ago
Why fight God's will?

29 points by howard941 2y ago

kylehotchkiss 2y ago

I'm really curious what home insurance will cost in Florida in a few years

linotype 2y ago
Or if it will be available at any cost.
exabrial 2y ago
Why should the rest of the population subsidize their choices?
- slater 2y ago
  Because that's how insurance works, generally speaking...?
- os2warpman 2y ago
  Everyone subsidizes everyone else. I subsidize roads for rural residents and lower rural wages and property values subside my food. That’s called being a nation state. If you claim that no one should live where there are hurricanes I will reply “or heat waves or blizzards or tornados or floods or inadequate arable land or inadequate water or forest fires or earthquakes” and we’ll be stuck in limbo unable to live anywhere.
  - EA-3167 2y ago
    I agree that we're all in it together, but we're not all subsidizing each other. Some states are highly dependent on Federal funds, others are not. CA for example contributes tens of billions more than it takes from the Federal government, enough to cover the entire state budget of one of the worst in that regard, Kentucky... more than 5X. https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700 https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the... I'm not sure why talking about the wisdom of living in a fire corridor or flood plain is somehow taboo, especially when the people paying are generally not the people living in those places. Even setting climate change aside it's an issue, as we see in places like coastal Florida, or communities in and around LA when fires come. Just sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "Everyone has to live somewhere" as though the country is full to capacity is really unhelpful.
- deleted 2y ago
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rebolek 2y ago
It would be interesting how would they explain higher rates and also not mention global warming which is obviously forbidden now.
howard941 2y ago
Well just this year it went up 13.9% for me, just below the threshold where it would have triggered a review. Also keep in mind that the industry is quite profitable. Large premiums are extracted and paid to controlled affiliates that aren't subject to the rules governing insurance companies. As a result of these shenanigans the industry cries poverty while making bank.
- mandeepj 2y ago
  > Well just this year it went up 13.9% for me Any idea what it could be for LA or nearby residents? For Chicago, or IL residents in general - their home insurance just doubled. If you try to shop - the new quotes are at least tripled. Not sure why? There are no natural calamities here.
  - howard941 2y ago
    No idea. The insurance companies down here are very small and almost all of them are Florida-only.
  - peterbecich 2y ago
    Have you checked the FEMA Flood Map? https://www.fema.gov/flood-maps https://www.fema.gov/flood-maps A.f.a.i.k. it is part of the calculation.

quantified 2y ago

Why fight God's will?