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We should stop treating any kind of patriotism and German culture like it is from the devil.

eli_gottlieb 1y ago
Sounds like you kinda just want an excuse to vote AfD without pointing to an element of their policy platform you think the rest of us should support too.
- selfmodruntime 1y ago
  Q.E.D (Just for the record I don't vote AfD. I do like being German and I like what little culture we have left. You can be patriotic and at the same time left leaning.)
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  - eli_gottlieb 1y ago
    Ok, so what policies do you like about BWS, then?
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- pixelpoet 1y ago
  Gruß aus Frankfurt, you really couldn't have proven his point any better if you tried. Some countries are approximately 50% national flag by surface area, fist pumping and chanting the country's name at every opportunity despite being run by people making Nazi salutes, but "it's okay to like your country's culture" is instantly equated with Nazism? Come on man...
  - selfmodruntime 1y ago
    I agree with your comment. It's also funny and sad to see the political and mental disconnect in this topic. Now that we need more military, people are surprised that there is no one who wants to defend a country that's just an arbitrary collection of people with no shared identity.
- slt2021 1y ago
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slt2021 1y ago
I would say Germany needs to redefine what patriotism is. It currently has too many dual passport holders, and people with dual loyalties who do not put the long-term interests of Germany first, but rather consider Germany only as a source of welfare to extract and transfer elsewhere
- selfmodruntime 1y ago
  The erosion of a shared German culture for decades leaves us with the result of having no national identity. Make no mistake, I'm not alluding to purism of the natives one bit. On the contrary, I would love for immigrants to be proud to be part of Germany. In the US, immigrants make a point of showing their patriotism by immersing themselves into American culture. We don't have a similar cultural phenomenon in Germany. > consider Germany only as a source of welfare to extract and transfer elsewhere You would be surprised how many natives share this viewpoint. This can only work for so long before something collapses...

Sounds like you kinda just want an excuse to vote AfD without pointing to an element of their policy platform you think the rest of us should support too.

selfmodruntime 1y ago
Q.E.D (Just for the record I don't vote AfD. I do like being German and I like what little culture we have left. You can be patriotic and at the same time left leaning.)
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- eli_gottlieb 1y ago
  Ok, so what policies do you like about BWS, then?
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pixelpoet 1y ago
Gruß aus Frankfurt, you really couldn't have proven his point any better if you tried. Some countries are approximately 50% national flag by surface area, fist pumping and chanting the country's name at every opportunity despite being run by people making Nazi salutes, but "it's okay to like your country's culture" is instantly equated with Nazism? Come on man...
- selfmodruntime 1y ago
  I agree with your comment. It's also funny and sad to see the political and mental disconnect in this topic. Now that we need more military, people are surprised that there is no one who wants to defend a country that's just an arbitrary collection of people with no shared identity.
slt2021 1y ago
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slt2021 1y ago

I would say Germany needs to redefine what patriotism is. It currently has too many dual passport holders, and people with dual loyalties who do not put the long-term interests of Germany first, but rather consider Germany only as a source of welfare to extract and transfer elsewhere

selfmodruntime 1y ago
The erosion of a shared German culture for decades leaves us with the result of having no national identity. Make no mistake, I'm not alluding to purism of the natives one bit. On the contrary, I would love for immigrants to be proud to be part of Germany. In the US, immigrants make a point of showing their patriotism by immersing themselves into American culture. We don't have a similar cultural phenomenon in Germany. > consider Germany only as a source of welfare to extract and transfer elsewhere You would be surprised how many natives share this viewpoint. This can only work for so long before something collapses...