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The CSU has a history of putting people in charge that do not benefit germany but bavaria (the only part of germany where the party CSU is active), e.g. Andreas

by ndr42 2y ago

The CSU has a history of putting people in charge that do not benefit germany but bavaria (the only part of germany where the party CSU is active), e.g. Andreas Scheuer [1][2]. Notable recent examples of corruption are the Maskenaffäre [4] or Julia Klöckner and Nestlé ("Julia Klöckner and Nestlé show how the greasy closeness between politics and business can go too far" [5]). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Scheuer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Scheuer: "Scheuer's ministry is said to have broken budgetary and public procurement law when concluding the multi-billion dollar contracts with the operators and "deliberately deceived" the Bundestag about the real costs of the car toll." [2] Söder (party leader of CSU) said about Scheuer: "I don't know not many ministers that bring so much money to bavaria as Andreas Scheuer" [3] [3] German: "Bei allem, was der ein oder andere kritisiert an dem Andi Scheuer: Ich kenne wenige Minister, die so viel Geld nach Bayern holen, wie der Andi Scheuer. Auch das muss man einfach mal in der Bilanz ehrlicherweise bitte nach draußen sagen." [4] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maskenaffäre https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maskenaffäre 5] https://www.spiegel.de/politik/julia-kloeckner-und-nestle-zeigen-wo-die-schmierige-naehe-zwischen-politik-und-wirtschaft-zu-weit-geht-a-0974bf16-1e24-495c-bac8-de07e5976af0 https://www.spiegel.de/politik/julia-kloeckner-und-nestle-ze...

selfmodruntime 2y ago
This ministry will not be lead by any of these people. Their replacement isn't that much better competency wise, but there is no corruption case yet. Your source 3 is not saying what you think it does. State government can apply for federal funding. Söder and his ilk have mastered this. There is nothing corrupt here.
- ndr42 2y ago
  I read a commemt in this discussion that Dorothee Bär has a case of corruption where she was employing her husband. „Source 3“: Well, if you are a minister for infrastructure in germany it is not part of our job description to bring money to bavaria. Maybe my definition of corruption is of but the minister has some saying in how to use its funds and if your home state benefits more than other parts of germany… I would call this a form of corruption
  - selfmodruntime 2y ago
    > Dorothee Bär has a case of corruption where she was employing her husband That is an unfortunate case of nepotism that happens in the entire political spectrum. I was especially disappointed of the Greens setting up cozy positions for friends and family at the end of their term. I really thought they'd do better.. > Well, if you are a minister for infrastructure in germany it is not part of our job description to bring money to bavaria Why not? If you think Bavaria is the largest net benefactor of this measure you might as well do so. It's one out of many possible strategies. > Maybe my definition of corruption is of I think it's something else but I can't think of a word.
    - ndr42 2y ago
      I was lumping all these behaviors together (as the abuse of entrusted power) but of course its better to be precise (thank you for introducing me to "nepotism").
      - selfmodruntime 2y ago
        > as the abuse of entrusted power I must say as a bavarian citizen that this "abuse" has lots of benefits for us. Of course I am aware of my bias here. I can't find an interview but Söder has said that a lot of other states don't even apply to all Fördergelder they could possibly get. That always striked me as odd.

by ndr42 2y ago

selfmodruntime 2y ago

This ministry will not be lead by any of these people. Their replacement isn't that much better competency wise, but there is no corruption case yet. Your source 3 is not saying what you think it does. State government can apply for federal funding. Söder and his ilk have mastered this. There is nothing corrupt here.

ndr42 2y ago
I read a commemt in this discussion that Dorothee Bär has a case of corruption where she was employing her husband. „Source 3“: Well, if you are a minister for infrastructure in germany it is not part of our job description to bring money to bavaria. Maybe my definition of corruption is of but the minister has some saying in how to use its funds and if your home state benefits more than other parts of germany… I would call this a form of corruption
- selfmodruntime 2y ago
  > Dorothee Bär has a case of corruption where she was employing her husband That is an unfortunate case of nepotism that happens in the entire political spectrum. I was especially disappointed of the Greens setting up cozy positions for friends and family at the end of their term. I really thought they'd do better.. > Well, if you are a minister for infrastructure in germany it is not part of our job description to bring money to bavaria Why not? If you think Bavaria is the largest net benefactor of this measure you might as well do so. It's one out of many possible strategies. > Maybe my definition of corruption is of I think it's something else but I can't think of a word.
  - ndr42 2y ago
    I was lumping all these behaviors together (as the abuse of entrusted power) but of course its better to be precise (thank you for introducing me to "nepotism").
    - selfmodruntime 2y ago
      > as the abuse of entrusted power I must say as a bavarian citizen that this "abuse" has lots of benefits for us. Of course I am aware of my bias here. I can't find an interview but Söder has said that a lot of other states don't even apply to all Fördergelder they could possibly get. That always striked me as odd.