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What’s your proposal? Give up?
by tene80i 1y ago
What’s your proposal? Give up?
- selfmodruntime 1y agoWe should stop treating any kind of patriotism and German culture like it is from the devil.
- eli_gottlieb 1y agoSounds like you kinda just want an excuse to vote AfD without pointing to an element of their policy platform you think the rest of us should support too.
- selfmodruntime 1y agoQ.E.D (Just for the record I don't vote AfD. I do like being German and I like what little culture we have left. You can be patriotic and at the same time left leaning.)
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- eli_gottlieb 1y agoOk, so what policies do you like about BWS, then?
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- pixelpoet 1y agoGruß aus Frankfurt, you really couldn't have proven his point any better if you tried. Some countries are approximately 50% national flag by surface area, fist pumping and chanting the country's name at every opportunity despite being run by people making Nazi salutes, but "it's okay to like your country's culture" is instantly equated with Nazism? Come on man...
- selfmodruntime 1y agoI agree with your comment. It's also funny and sad to see the political and mental disconnect in this topic. Now that we need more military, people are surprised that there is no one who wants to defend a country that's just an arbitrary collection of people with no shared identity.
- slt2021 1y ago[flagged]
- slt2021 1y agoI would say Germany needs to redefine what patriotism is. It currently has too many dual passport holders, and people with dual loyalties who do not put the long-term interests of Germany first, but rather consider Germany only as a source of welfare to extract and transfer elsewhere
- selfmodruntime 1y agoThe erosion of a shared German culture for decades leaves us with the result of having no national identity. Make no mistake, I'm not alluding to purism of the natives one bit. On the contrary, I would love for immigrants to be proud to be part of Germany. In the US, immigrants make a point of showing their patriotism by immersing themselves into American culture. We don't have a similar cultural phenomenon in Germany. > consider Germany only as a source of welfare to extract and transfer elsewhere You would be surprised how many natives share this viewpoint. This can only work for so long before something collapses...
- ernst_klim 1y agoGermany is actively killing innovation. I propose to stop for starters. Tho when the median voter is 55 and national motto is "that's how it was always done" and "Pensions are secure" - I don't put much hope. I still remember the outcry when the digital health cards were introduced.
- mk89 1y agoNot sure how Germany is actively killing innovation to be honest. Your other points are more or less true, I just like to think that people complain a lot and media obviously makes it worse. Digital health cards, online tax declaration, etc. These things did happen. People complained, but these decisions were not reverted. That's the most important.
- ernst_klim 1y ago> Not sure how Germany is actively killing innovation to be honest By many things at once: Datenschutz, (over- and premature) regulations, bureaucracy, laws favoring old ways (e.g. broadcasting licenses for streamers), active sabotage from workers who don't want to learn things (and can't be fired) etc. But all stems from risk averseness and active unwillingness to learn new ways. As you say, (some) things did happened, but way too slow and way too little. Compared to its peers or especially developing countries German Digitalisierung is a joke, a not so funny one.