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Herbert for better gender and emotional politics than Heinlein. Herbert! And to think I imagined there was nothing left you could say to surprise me. Don't exp

Herbert for better gender and emotional politics than Heinlein. Herbert! And to think I imagined there was nothing left you could say to surprise me. Don't expect me to stop discussing what your behavior displays of your character, just because you've finally shown the modicum of rhetorical sense or tactical cunning required to minimally amend that behavior. Again, if you actually meant even a fraction of what you say, you would now be reading instead of still speaking. If it bothers you that you continue to indict yourself by your actions this way, consider acting differently. Should you at any future point opt to develop a thesis in this area which is capable of supporting knowledgeable discussion, I confide it will find an audience in accord with its quality. In the meantime, please stop inviting me to participate in the project of recovering your totally unforced embarrassment. Believe it or not by the look of things, I already have enough else to do today. Wiping your nose as you struggle and fail to learn from your vastly overprivileged young life's first encounter with entirely merited and obviously unmitigated contempt doesn't really make the list, at least not past the point at which it ceases to amuse, which I admit is now fast approaching.

fofff 2y ago
Fuck off, you condescending prick.
- throwanem 2y ago
  > Fuck off, you condescending prick. Ah, here we go. I understand why you're using a fresh throwaway for this sort of thing, of course. Can't risk being seen for no better than you have to be, eh? But this at least - and, I strongly suspect, at last - is honest. You can't abuse me in any way you're wise or sensible enough to imagine finding, so now you'll go mistreat someone inside the span of your arm's reach, blaming me all the while for your own infantile urge to do so. I wish you every bit as much joy of it as you deserve. And I hope they know your current Hacker News handle.
  - fofff 2y ago
    Sitting here rolling my eyes at your response. Seriously, fuck off.
    - throwanem 2y ago
      > Sitting here rolling my eyes at your response. Seriously, fuck off.
      - fofff 2y ago
        Bye, asshole.
        throwanem 2y ago
        > Bye, asshole. If you didn't want to prove me right when I said six hours ago [1] that you were throwing a tantrum, why continue throwing the tantrum? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43655066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43655066
        Balgair 2y ago
        To be clear, I'm not the newbie account with the expletives. I've no idea who that is.
        throwanem 2y ago
        Oh, I know; I don't blame you at all for feeling some need to clarify, but I was under no confusion. Sorry you got tangled up in all this. I hope it hasn't been totally lacking in literary-critical interest, at least.
n4r9 2y ago
In Dune there are female characters with their own desires and designs on the world, who go out and take what they want. There is profound loss, and personal transformation. There is coming to terms with intensely sad or painful circumstances. There is overcoming doubt, building resilience, and taking responsibility and control of one's destiny. These things were not really explored in what I've read of Heinlein.
- throwanem 2y ago
  > These things were not really explored in what I've read of Heinlein. I don't know how much further you expect me to need to boil down "read more" and still be able to take you seriously. How do you expect that, when you haven't even bothered trying to justify how you chose those four novels to represent forty years? I see that 'seriously' very much describes how you like to regard yourself. You've insisted most thoroughly others must regard you likewise, regardless of what you show yourself anywhere near capable of actually rewarding or indeed even appreciating. Do you have a favorable impression of your efforts thus far? Have they had the results that you hoped? We would now be having a different conversation if you had said anything to suggest to me it would be worth my trouble to continue in the attempt. I'd have enjoyed that conversation, I think; as most days here, I had hopes of learning something new. You've felt the need to spend the day doing this instead. If you don't like how that's working out, whom fairly may you blame?
  - n4r9 2y ago
    At this point I'm mostly just intrigued to see whether you'll keep replying and whether you'll make any substantial points.
    - throwanem 2y ago
      > At this point I'm mostly just intrigued to see whether you'll keep replying and whether you'll make any substantial points. Every substantive point I've actually made all day you have totally ignored, and this is what it's worth your time still to do. But sure. You can stop paying me rent to live in your head any time you like. Keep telling yourself that. I don't doubt you need to, to get through a day. Also, 122d40d7236cd3ade496d0101d8029ec.

fofff 2y ago

Fuck off, you condescending prick.

throwanem 2y ago
> Fuck off, you condescending prick. Ah, here we go. I understand why you're using a fresh throwaway for this sort of thing, of course. Can't risk being seen for no better than you have to be, eh? But this at least - and, I strongly suspect, at last - is honest. You can't abuse me in any way you're wise or sensible enough to imagine finding, so now you'll go mistreat someone inside the span of your arm's reach, blaming me all the while for your own infantile urge to do so. I wish you every bit as much joy of it as you deserve. And I hope they know your current Hacker News handle.
- fofff 2y ago
  Sitting here rolling my eyes at your response. Seriously, fuck off.
  - throwanem 2y ago
    > Sitting here rolling my eyes at your response. Seriously, fuck off.
    - fofff 2y ago
      Bye, asshole.
      - throwanem 2y ago
        > Bye, asshole. If you didn't want to prove me right when I said six hours ago [1] that you were throwing a tantrum, why continue throwing the tantrum? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43655066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43655066
        Balgair 2y ago
        To be clear, I'm not the newbie account with the expletives. I've no idea who that is.
        throwanem 2y ago
        Oh, I know; I don't blame you at all for feeling some need to clarify, but I was under no confusion. Sorry you got tangled up in all this. I hope it hasn't been totally lacking in literary-critical interest, at least.

n4r9 2y ago

In Dune there are female characters with their own desires and designs on the world, who go out and take what they want. There is profound loss, and personal transformation. There is coming to terms with intensely sad or painful circumstances. There is overcoming doubt, building resilience, and taking responsibility and control of one's destiny. These things were not really explored in what I've read of Heinlein.

throwanem 2y ago
> These things were not really explored in what I've read of Heinlein. I don't know how much further you expect me to need to boil down "read more" and still be able to take you seriously. How do you expect that, when you haven't even bothered trying to justify how you chose those four novels to represent forty years? I see that 'seriously' very much describes how you like to regard yourself. You've insisted most thoroughly others must regard you likewise, regardless of what you show yourself anywhere near capable of actually rewarding or indeed even appreciating. Do you have a favorable impression of your efforts thus far? Have they had the results that you hoped? We would now be having a different conversation if you had said anything to suggest to me it would be worth my trouble to continue in the attempt. I'd have enjoyed that conversation, I think; as most days here, I had hopes of learning something new. You've felt the need to spend the day doing this instead. If you don't like how that's working out, whom fairly may you blame?
- n4r9 2y ago
  At this point I'm mostly just intrigued to see whether you'll keep replying and whether you'll make any substantial points.
  - throwanem 2y ago
    > At this point I'm mostly just intrigued to see whether you'll keep replying and whether you'll make any substantial points. Every substantive point I've actually made all day you have totally ignored, and this is what it's worth your time still to do. But sure. You can stop paying me rent to live in your head any time you like. Keep telling yourself that. I don't doubt you need to, to get through a day. Also, 122d40d7236cd3ade496d0101d8029ec.