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GS pay scales can support senior devs just fine. Maybe not the $500k Googlers, but normal ones.
by giantg2 2y ago
GS pay scales can support senior devs just fine. Maybe not the $500k Googlers, but normal ones.
- saagarjha 2y agoYes, but sometimes you do actually want the $500k Googlers.
- krainboltgreene 2y agoI promise you never want that.
- saagarjha 2y agoI've worked with several of them and yes I do occasionally find that they would be the best suited for the work.
- criddell 2y agoMatt Cutts went from Google to the US Digital Service and did some amazing work. Maybe he’s an outlier, but I don’t think so. There are a lot of supremely talented people willing to take a massive pay cut to do good, meaningful work.
- krainboltgreene 2y agoThree things: 1. Exactly zero companies, much less startups, are like the US Government. 2. He had 2 years at the NSA prior to his Google run. 3. I'm pretty sure he's one of the highest profile google engineers, you're not getting that for $500k.
- giantg2 2y agoAnd you can have them. Once they're done making tons of money you have a chance to get the mission oriented ones.
- Taikonerd 2y agoWhat "grade" would a senior dev be at? Pay scale for the DC area: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/salary-tables/25Tables/html/DCB.aspx https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries...
- prepend 2y agoSenior devs are usually gs-15, step 10 which is about $195k in DC I don’t think it’s the money, I think it’s the mindset. There’s more project managers than actual hands on engineers.
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- Den_VR 2y agoWhere have you seen gs-15 senior devs? That oddball org that turned into DOGE? Seniors developers top out GS-13 without supervisory responsibilities.
- giantg2 2y agoI've seen GS-12 and 13 advertised commonly. That's still good money and as much or more than I make.
- prepend 2y agoBefore DOGE it was USDS and they had lots of gs-15s. Especially back when they would just straight up match private sector salaries. In my org (10000+), over the past 5+ years we’ve hired maybe 20-30 15s and 14s who are non-supervisory engineers. It’s not a ton but it’s more historically. My point though is that people will take the jobs on government pay scale, but it’s organizationally very difficult to get the positions through HR.