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> Cutting it all at once with no other plan can have disastrous consequences. I think this part is overestimated. It will get fixed.

tclancy 2y ago
By whom?
- grandempire 2y ago
  This comment by saying it will be disastrous. Remember all the twitter predictions?
  - const_cast 2y ago
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  - t-writescode 2y ago
    Underfunding and breaking of, for example, unemployment benefits systems causes real harm, real loss of medication, real loss of house, etc. But that won't make the news in any meaningful way, and the destitute will often be too busy to make loud noises. And the populous at large will sigh and shake their head and say "what a shame", but the loss can be *enormous*.
    - grandempire 2y ago
      > Underfunding and breaking of, for example, unemployment benefits systems causes real harm, real loss of medication, real loss of house, etc. I thought we were talking about firing IT consultants? Let me know when that happens. > But that won't make the news I think that would make the news immediately. The media is very interested in DOGE and its shortcomings.
      - t-writescode 2y ago
        > I thought we were talking about firing IT consultants? Let I read this whole thread as being about the broader 'cutting' trend, OOP: when discussing the overall trend of cutting programs in other fields where the majority doesn't have that expertise, the conclusion is the opposite. Parent: Rash moves like this are things politicians and corporate ladder climbers alike love to do, but then they run far away from the consequences.
t-writescode 2y ago
Breaking critical systems like SNAP, Medicare/Medicaid, weather forecasting and many many many other systems that people literally depend on for their being alive *kills* people. Programmers that work on critical systems are actively trained to take into consideration every contingency to not increase the death rate of their systems, to the best of their abilities. Aggressive, comprehensive and non-robust axing of systems when literal lives are on the line - especially when it's government systems and those lines maintain any semblance of some people's ability to literally be alive - touch and impact more lives than any single Boeing plane or NASA space shuttle's crash. They are even more critical than those systems - though not as flashy when they fail.
- grandempire 2y ago
  This is a nerd fantasy where you imagine your skills and expertise are what keep society turning. Computer problems are fixable, and they are secondary, and there are many people and services who can be hired to fix them.
  - t-writescode 2y ago
    What are you on about? The systems I'm referring to are human systems with lots of humans doing human things. Cutting funding, removing departments, those are removing the humans doing human things to solve human problems.
    - grandempire 2y ago
      This is what I replied to in my comment above: > Two things can be bad at once. The IT consulting can be too expensive. Cutting it all at once with no other plan can have disastrous consequences.

tclancy 2y ago

By whom?

grandempire 2y ago
This comment by saying it will be disastrous. Remember all the twitter predictions?
- const_cast 2y ago
  [dead]
- t-writescode 2y ago
  Underfunding and breaking of, for example, unemployment benefits systems causes real harm, real loss of medication, real loss of house, etc. But that won't make the news in any meaningful way, and the destitute will often be too busy to make loud noises. And the populous at large will sigh and shake their head and say "what a shame", but the loss can be *enormous*.
  - grandempire 2y ago
    > Underfunding and breaking of, for example, unemployment benefits systems causes real harm, real loss of medication, real loss of house, etc. I thought we were talking about firing IT consultants? Let me know when that happens. > But that won't make the news I think that would make the news immediately. The media is very interested in DOGE and its shortcomings.
    - t-writescode 2y ago
      > I thought we were talking about firing IT consultants? Let I read this whole thread as being about the broader 'cutting' trend, OOP: when discussing the overall trend of cutting programs in other fields where the majority doesn't have that expertise, the conclusion is the opposite. Parent: Rash moves like this are things politicians and corporate ladder climbers alike love to do, but then they run far away from the consequences.

t-writescode 2y ago

Breaking critical systems like SNAP, Medicare/Medicaid, weather forecasting and many many many other systems that people literally depend on for their being alive *kills* people. Programmers that work on critical systems are actively trained to take into consideration every contingency to not increase the death rate of their systems, to the best of their abilities. Aggressive, comprehensive and non-robust axing of systems when literal lives are on the line - especially when it's government systems and those lines maintain any semblance of some people's ability to literally be alive - touch and impact more lives than any single Boeing plane or NASA space shuttle's crash. They are even more critical than those systems - though not as flashy when they fail.

grandempire 2y ago
This is a nerd fantasy where you imagine your skills and expertise are what keep society turning. Computer problems are fixable, and they are secondary, and there are many people and services who can be hired to fix them.
- t-writescode 2y ago
  What are you on about? The systems I'm referring to are human systems with lots of humans doing human things. Cutting funding, removing departments, those are removing the humans doing human things to solve human problems.
  - grandempire 2y ago
    This is what I replied to in my comment above: > Two things can be bad at once. The IT consulting can be too expensive. Cutting it all at once with no other plan can have disastrous consequences.