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Time for research to move to the EU. No point getting involved in the trouble that is the US these days with little tyrants everywhere.

by windex 1y ago

dkkergoog 1y ago
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georgemcbay 1y ago
Yup. The brain drain driven by the dumpster-fire Trump administration is going to be immense, and it won't be confined to just immigrants.
soraminazuki 1y ago
Calling them little tyrants is an understatement when the far right is repositioning America to be a major threat to the free world.
- ipython 1y ago
  Belittling them is the only approach that will work. They have such a thin skin and fragile egos that making logical arguments, following procedure, or addressing this via well established "norms" just results in them getting their rocks off on telling you to F off. See [0] just as one example of many. On the other hand, pointing out the lunacy of their actions, their hypocrisy, and malice through satire, parody and straight up bullying is the only way to truly break through the shell they've built around that fragile ego they're carrying around. Just my opinion. [0] https://shop.gop.com/products/liberal-tears-mug https://shop.gop.com/products/liberal-tears-mug
  - windex 1y ago
    Satire gets under their skin real fast.
  - soraminazuki 1y ago
    They're not bound by shame, so belittlement won't stop them either. Satire and parody is great, but it shouldn't downplay the risk given the stakes.
  - dontlaugh 1y ago
    Historically, guns are the only approach that works.
eli_gottlieb 1y ago
There's research funding in the EU?
- fc417fc802 1y ago
  That would still have been pithy a couple months ago, but at this point it might not be long before the reverse of that question applies.
  - eli_gottlieb 1y ago
    I wasn't trying to be pithy. My most recent understanding is that a lot of EU countries have been cutting their research funding and attacking their universities.
ty6853 1y ago
Then the EU will have to make visas easier to get. Immigrants flocked to the USA for high wages and accessible visa or open enough border that they knew once they made it 100 miles in there was only 1% chance they get locked up to die in an immigration camp in central America. The EU still has both those barriers, that many of their countries guard their work permits more fiercely than their own balls, and their wages are lower than places like Dubai with far easier to get work visa. If the EU isn't careful their cake will be stolen by authoritarian places like Singapore and Dubai that have comparatively free trade and easy work permits.
- surgical_fire 1y ago
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  - joquarky 1y ago
    >This is pure, undistilled bullshit. Please don't turn HN into Reddit.
- jltsiren 1y ago
  It's easier to get a work visa or employment based permanent residency in most EU countries than in the US. Partly because there are no quotas for higher-end work visas or permanent residency permits. And partly because the EU does not have a large number of illegal immigrants available for lower-end jobs. Imagine that H-1Bs would be available in unlimited quantities any time of the year, as long as you meet the minimum requirements. And that the H-1B would be extended to a green card after a few years, assuming the authorities don't find anything too bad in the background checks. That's how it works in the EU. European countries are generally more protectionist about working class jobs than professional jobs. If you have the education, skills, and experience, they assume that your presence would be good for the economy. And the citizens don't really complain. I guess a major reason is that the primary identities are national, while legal rights are EU-wide. If there are already hundreds of millions of foreigners who could apply for the same jobs, who cares about a small number of additional immigrants.
  - 1y ago
diffxx 1y ago
Every EU nation should be thinking about how to fast track and incentivize American immigration.
- dkkergoog 1y ago
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rdtsc 1y ago
I am assuming that's pretty easy? Just apply to an EU university or job?

Time for research to move to the EU. No point getting involved in the trouble that is the US these days with little tyrants everywhere.

by windex 1y ago

Time for research to move to the EU. No point getting involved in the trouble that is the US these days with little tyrants everywhere.

dkkergoog 1y ago

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georgemcbay 1y ago

Yup. The brain drain driven by the dumpster-fire Trump administration is going to be immense, and it won't be confined to just immigrants.

soraminazuki 1y ago

Calling them little tyrants is an understatement when the far right is repositioning America to be a major threat to the free world.

ipython 1y ago
Belittling them is the only approach that will work. They have such a thin skin and fragile egos that making logical arguments, following procedure, or addressing this via well established "norms" just results in them getting their rocks off on telling you to F off. See [0] just as one example of many. On the other hand, pointing out the lunacy of their actions, their hypocrisy, and malice through satire, parody and straight up bullying is the only way to truly break through the shell they've built around that fragile ego they're carrying around. Just my opinion. [0] https://shop.gop.com/products/liberal-tears-mug https://shop.gop.com/products/liberal-tears-mug
- windex 1y ago
  Satire gets under their skin real fast.
- soraminazuki 1y ago
  They're not bound by shame, so belittlement won't stop them either. Satire and parody is great, but it shouldn't downplay the risk given the stakes.
- dontlaugh 1y ago
  Historically, guns are the only approach that works.

eli_gottlieb 1y ago

There's research funding in the EU?

fc417fc802 1y ago
That would still have been pithy a couple months ago, but at this point it might not be long before the reverse of that question applies.
- eli_gottlieb 1y ago
  I wasn't trying to be pithy. My most recent understanding is that a lot of EU countries have been cutting their research funding and attacking their universities.

ty6853 1y ago

Then the EU will have to make visas easier to get. Immigrants flocked to the USA for high wages and accessible visa or open enough border that they knew once they made it 100 miles in there was only 1% chance they get locked up to die in an immigration camp in central America. The EU still has both those barriers, that many of their countries guard their work permits more fiercely than their own balls, and their wages are lower than places like Dubai with far easier to get work visa. If the EU isn't careful their cake will be stolen by authoritarian places like Singapore and Dubai that have comparatively free trade and easy work permits.

surgical_fire 1y ago
[flagged]
- joquarky 1y ago
  >This is pure, undistilled bullshit. Please don't turn HN into Reddit.
jltsiren 1y ago
It's easier to get a work visa or employment based permanent residency in most EU countries than in the US. Partly because there are no quotas for higher-end work visas or permanent residency permits. And partly because the EU does not have a large number of illegal immigrants available for lower-end jobs. Imagine that H-1Bs would be available in unlimited quantities any time of the year, as long as you meet the minimum requirements. And that the H-1B would be extended to a green card after a few years, assuming the authorities don't find anything too bad in the background checks. That's how it works in the EU. European countries are generally more protectionist about working class jobs than professional jobs. If you have the education, skills, and experience, they assume that your presence would be good for the economy. And the citizens don't really complain. I guess a major reason is that the primary identities are national, while legal rights are EU-wide. If there are already hundreds of millions of foreigners who could apply for the same jobs, who cares about a small number of additional immigrants.
- 1y ago

diffxx 1y ago

Every EU nation should be thinking about how to fast track and incentivize American immigration.

dkkergoog 1y ago
[flagged]

rdtsc 1y ago

I am assuming that's pretty easy? Just apply to an EU university or job?