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>that poster cites no source Trivial to reverse search: https://triblive.com/news/politics-election/i-only-have-a-semester-left-carnegie-mellon-student-among-t

by gruez 2y ago

>that poster cites no source Trivial to reverse search: https://triblive.com/news/politics-election/i-only-have-a-semester-left-carnegie-mellon-student-among-those-whose-visas-were-terminated/ https://triblive.com/news/politics-election/i-only-have-a-se...

ceejayoz 2y ago
Also trivial to find: https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-f-chapter-2 https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-f-chapter... > If the accused is directed to attend a pre-trial diversion or intervention program, where no admission or finding of guilt is required, the order may not count as a conviction for immigration purposes.
- gruez 2y ago
  That's for determining whether someone can be naturalized, not whatever Trump's doing. >One of the general requirements for naturalization is good moral character (GMC). GMC means character which measures up to the standards of average citizens of the community in which the applicant resides.[1] In general, an applicant must show that he or she has been and continues to be a person of GMC during the statutory period prior to filing and up to the time of the Oath of Allegiance.[2] >The applicable naturalization provision under which the applicant files determines the period during which the applicant must demonstrate GMC.[3] The applicant’s conduct outside the GMC period may also impact whether he or she meets the GMC requirement.[4]
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    You're trying to tell me that naturalization requirements are looser than a temporary student visa?
    - gruez 2y ago
      That's not surprising at all. Permanent residents (ie. green card holders) generally have more rights than temporary visa holders (you can't be refused entry at the border, for instance), and are harder to deport.
      - ceejayoz 2y ago
        No. They get more rights because the process of getting residency and citizenship is stricter than a short term visa. Once you have the status, you've got more protection. Plenty of people can get a tourist visa but would not be permitted to settle here.
- thowmeinariver 2y ago
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by gruez 2y ago

ceejayoz 2y ago

Also trivial to find: https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-f-chapter-2 https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-f-chapter... > If the accused is directed to attend a pre-trial diversion or intervention program, where no admission or finding of guilt is required, the order may not count as a conviction for immigration purposes.

gruez 2y ago
That's for determining whether someone can be naturalized, not whatever Trump's doing. >One of the general requirements for naturalization is good moral character (GMC). GMC means character which measures up to the standards of average citizens of the community in which the applicant resides.[1] In general, an applicant must show that he or she has been and continues to be a person of GMC during the statutory period prior to filing and up to the time of the Oath of Allegiance.[2] >The applicable naturalization provision under which the applicant files determines the period during which the applicant must demonstrate GMC.[3] The applicant’s conduct outside the GMC period may also impact whether he or she meets the GMC requirement.[4]
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  You're trying to tell me that naturalization requirements are looser than a temporary student visa?
  - gruez 2y ago
    That's not surprising at all. Permanent residents (ie. green card holders) generally have more rights than temporary visa holders (you can't be refused entry at the border, for instance), and are harder to deport.
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      No. They get more rights because the process of getting residency and citizenship is stricter than a short term visa. Once you have the status, you've got more protection. Plenty of people can get a tourist visa but would not be permitted to settle here.
thowmeinariver 2y ago
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